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Mar 7, 2016 at 3:03 comment added Nithin Sridhar Ideal is different from practice. If a Brahmachari perfects Brahmacharya, then he would become a Vairagi and take up Sannyasa without even entering Grihasta. We have examples of many doing that. But, this is not true about the majority. A Brahmachari must strive hard to develop Indriya Nigraha, but how much he is able to develop is a different issue. Moreover, the severe restrictions during ashramas have been suggested keeping the nature of work of Brahmanas and these need not apply to other Varnas in same severity. Ex. secular education is different from vaidika edu, though share same value
Mar 5, 2016 at 19:44 comment added Yogi +1 I agree with you on some points but not everything, like there is nothing as just partial Bramhacharya or indriya nigraha (taking out indriyas out of samsara), bramhacharis are expected to be in full control as well as without desires since kama (desire) and krodha (anger) are the sources of all evil, and indriya nigraha does not stop desires. Which means even though they are physically celebate they would have desires left in them which would make them do evil things or adharma. Since desires tempts man to take easy choice rather than correct one. Vishwakarma was a kshatriya meat eater
Mar 5, 2016 at 18:28 comment added Nithin Sridhar @Yogi I have nowhere spoken about absolute Brahmacharya. I am only speaking about learning Indriya Nigraha. Brahmacharya in true sense is only possible for a Vairagi and such a student who is Vairagi will never enter Grihasta, but instead take Sannyasa. Therefore, students who go on to become Grihasta, need to develop Indriya Nigraha and are not expected to develop absolute Brahmacharya! And as I pointed out, needs of the times change and with changing times, the practical applications of Dharma also changes.
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Mar 5, 2016 at 17:51 comment added Yogi @iammilind - The time you are refering to is time before dwapara era of vyasa and scriptures existed in uncompiled form , and were transmitted from generations to generations orally, but manusmriti was even before that because manu gave it to rishis at the time of creation of manvantara,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_units_of_time#For_Brahma, If inner conscience of every jiva was so developed from the start then there would be no souls without moksha, because they all would be jnani.
Mar 5, 2016 at 16:09 comment added iammilind Good answer. I am astonished that Manusmriti & other relevant scriptures quoted here have so many relevant texts! Your interpretation is admirable. The keyword here for me is "inner conscience". This part is eternal and comes with everyone. Not all have access to scriptures, but all have access to this part. Unfortunately it's difficult to convince who take scriptures as supreme. We often forget that there was also a time, whic existed before scriptures were composed and people still lived correctly. :-)
Mar 5, 2016 at 15:23 comment added Yogi REgarding organization , the organization is exactly as project team, so that I can refuse to tell other than doing adharma by not abiding project laws, or telling lie. I reject the Idea that one can maintain absolute bramhacharya with co-ed or something like that, your thoughts are forcibly attracted towards it, and the one who claims that is a lier. Claiming that absolute bramhacharya is possible with women is like claiming to be in deep medetation without closing eyes.
Mar 5, 2016 at 14:47 history answered Nithin Sridhar CC BY-SA 3.0