Timeline for How does Adishankaracharya Advaita explain concept of Avatar?
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| Sep 30, 2018 at 10:39 | comment | added | Swami Vishwananda | @TheCrimsonUniverse correct. but meditation is one means but not the only means. | |
| Sep 29, 2018 at 8:18 | comment | added | The Crimson Universe | When the above verse says ""sight of the transcendental"" i guess it means experiential knowledge, that which is gained via meditation, and not the one attained by reading scriptures. Right? | |
| Sep 29, 2018 at 5:10 | comment | added | Swami Vishwananda | @TheCrimsonUniverse This is esplained in the Brahma Sutras and Upanishads. See for 1 reference see Mundaka Upanishad II.ii.8 - "Sundered are the knots of the heart, torn off are all his doubts, and the seeds of his karma wear off, when the sight of the Transcendental One is gained." | |
| Sep 7, 2018 at 11:06 | comment | added | The Crimson Universe | @SwamiVishwananda, The more i read about Shankara's verses, the more i'm drawn towards advaita. Did he mention in his commentaries about the source of his claim, that once knowledge is attained all past karmas are destroyed? | |
| Jul 26, 2016 at 5:38 | vote | accept | The Destroyer♦ | ||
| Jul 26, 2016 at 5:14 | comment | added | Swami Vishwananda | @TheDestroyer 1) Yes, correct. 2) Within the realm of Maya, Avatar such as Lord Rama is superior. | |
| Jul 23, 2016 at 11:04 | comment | added | The Destroyer♦ | Got it. Here, clay elephant is Avatar and Clay mouse is Jeevanmukta. Right? One final question, Is Avatar born with nescience (for some specific purpose), such as Lord Rama superior to Jeevanmukta? | |
| Jul 23, 2016 at 5:10 | comment | added | Swami Vishwananda | @TheDestroyer I don't understand your question. Please rephrase. | |
| Jul 21, 2016 at 10:52 | comment | added | The Destroyer♦ | Thank you Swamiji ! Your clay example made it clear. But is the physical body (born out of karmas of previous birth) of Jeevanmukta (Avatar took body at his own will) responsible for superiority of Avatara to Jeevanmukta from perspective of an unrealized soul (me), as freed soul can never see Maya or Iswara? | |
| Jul 21, 2016 at 10:00 | comment | added | Swami Vishwananda | @TheDestroyer In a certain sense you are correct, but in another sense no. A clay elephant and a clay mouse are both made from clay. When the forms are destroyed, they both become clay; but a clay mouse can never be a clay elephant and vice versa. A freed soul-jiva no longer exists as a separate soul-jiva. Once freed, there is only Brahman. You cannot 'view' a freed soul, you cannot 'view' Nirguna Brahman. You can only view Saguna Brahman. A freed soul is not aware of Saguna Brahman, Nirguna Brahman is only aware of Nirguna Brahman - One infinite homogenous unchanging blissful existence. | |
| Jul 19, 2016 at 6:36 | comment | added | The Destroyer♦ | Thanks. But you said freed soul is not Saguna Brahman but freed soul realizes himself as Nirguna Brahman and Nirguna Brahman is just viewed as Saguna Brahman by an unrealized person. So, freed soul must be viewed as Saguna Brahman by an unrealized person because there's no difference between freed soul and Nirguna Brahman in reality. Also, you said, Avatar is ISwara (Saguna Brahman). For freed soul or in reality, Nirguna Brahman = freed Soul = Avatar right? | |
| Jul 19, 2016 at 5:41 | comment | added | Swami Vishwananda | @TheDestroyer Yes, you are correct; but the fact that you are asking the question means that you are not truly aware of it. You may understand it intellectually but you have not realized it as your true being. | |
| Jul 17, 2016 at 11:16 | comment | added | The Destroyer♦ | Thank you Swamiji. Aren't we all Nirguna Brahman or our pure Atman Nirguna Brahman in reality which is seen as various dualities and species in Maya? | |
| Jul 17, 2016 at 10:30 | history | edited | Swami Vishwananda | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 17, 2016 at 10:24 | comment | added | Swami Vishwananda | @TheDestroyer 1) a freed soul becomes 1 with Nirguna Brahman. Saguna Brahman is same as Nirguna Brahman, Nirguna Brahman when seen from within maya is Saguna Brahman. We cannot perceive Nirguna. 2) Freed souls do not have powers of creation because scripture say so. Read the very last verses of the Brahma Sutra referenced above. The Brahma Sutras say so as well as Sankara's commentary on those verses explain it very well. | |
| Jul 17, 2016 at 7:35 | comment | added | The Destroyer♦ | I'm not clear with 2 topics : 1) If freed soul is not Saguna Brahman and if freed Atma is not Brahman, how this is called Advaita? A person in Maya should see free Atman as Saguna Brahman (through the lens of Maya). There should be no difference between Nirguna Brahman and Atman. 2) Why free Atman doesn't have powers of creation, Preservation and Destruction, when freed Atman is Brahman? It doesn't look logical that there are many Iswaras. But freed Atman is nothing but Nirguna Brahman and only appears as Saguna Brahman (Iswara) to a man in Maya. | |
| Jul 16, 2016 at 10:42 | history | answered | Swami Vishwananda | CC BY-SA 3.0 |