Timeline for Why did Rāma kill Śambūka? And is Rāma justified in killing him without a second chance?
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Sep 15, 2022 at 7:28 | answer | added | Ramcharan | timeline score: 0 | |
May 21, 2022 at 11:38 | comment | added | Prasanna R | Earlier had done tapasya towards Umadevi got one kalpana ayushu on seeing the beauty of umadevi this shudra again starts the penance for Shiva status | |
May 21, 2022 at 11:36 | comment | added | Prasanna R | No answer will justify killing but the intention of tapasya is gai control of indra and attai status of lord Shiva that is get umadevi intention who is the lord of 3 lokhas in same birth | |
May 21, 2022 at 11:24 | answer | added | S K | timeline score: 1 | |
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Nov 29, 2020 at 7:59 | answer | added | Sethu Srivatsa Koduru | timeline score: 8 | |
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Jun 26, 2018 at 13:11 | answer | added | Pradip Gangopadhyay | timeline score: 12 | |
Dec 16, 2017 at 18:34 | comment | added | Surya | @KeshavSrinivasan Doesn't the name Shabari (Shabara woman) itself indicate her low caste? | |
Jun 6, 2017 at 4:11 | comment | added | user9554 | @KeshavSrinivasan Is there any verse in valmiki Ramayana which says Rama performed Pooja after killing Ravana? | |
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Jan 24, 2017 at 19:50 | comment | added | Keshav Srinivasan♦ | @sv. The notion that Shabari was a low-caste woman is folklore, it's not mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayana or any other scripture as far as I know. | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 19:13 | comment | added | Say No To Censorship | @KeshavSrinivasan Ok, what about Shabari? I think she was low-caste...didn't she attain heaven or mokṣa? | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 18:59 | comment | added | Keshav Srinivasan♦ | @sv. To this day, low-caste people are not eligible for Jnana and Moksha through the methods of Vedanta; see my question here: hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/8682/36 But they can still attain Moksha through Sharanagati. | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 18:34 | comment | added | Say No To Censorship | @moonstar2001 (forget Indra and heaven) so, back then, śūdra wasn't even allowed to meditate to attain mokṣa? | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 11:56 | comment | added | Pradip Gangopadhyay | @sv, your point about Ravana is a good one. I didn't write an answer because I think I will then have to refer to the exact Ramayana shloka on Shambuka. | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 11:54 | comment | added | Pradip Gangopadhyay | @Destroyer, Rama took action against Shambuka (as far as I remember) because Devas like Indra were alarmed by what they thought was Shambuka's effort to gain control over heaven and potentially harass them. Rama's action was to preempt any potential harassment. | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 8:51 | comment | added | The Destroyer♦ | @PradipGangopadhyay Jalandhara's story is different. Shiva killed Jalandhra as jalandhara was harrassing Gods citing story of stealing of Gems and Amruta by Indra. | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 7:32 | comment | added | user1195 | " No one stopped Ravana from doing tapas why stop poor Shambuka? " It was the yuga dharma then for sudras to not engage in tapasya. | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 6:24 | comment | added | Say No To Censorship | Oh, then you can post an answer citing Shiva Purana. Regarding interpolation, it's possible, although the Canto # is 76 of 111 of Uttarakanda. Now some people consider the whole of Uttarakanda as interpolation due to Shambuka incident because it's quite unlike Rama to kill anyone without explaining the reasons. No one stopped Ravana from doing tapas why stop poor Shambuka? | |
Jan 24, 2017 at 6:07 | comment | added | Pradip Gangopadhyay | The part of Ramayana that talks of Shambuka is considered by most scholars as an interpolation. Most probably Valmiki never wrote that story. However, Rama’s action is justified. Shambuka was doing Tapas in order to gain control of lower heavens and kick out Devatas like Indra. Rama killed Shambuka to stop him from gaining control of lower heaven. A similar story is there in Shiva Puarana. Lord Shiva killed Jalandhara who also did tapas to gain control over lower heaven. | |
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