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Jul 7, 2022 at 8:29	answer	added	Amritendu Mukhopadhyay		timeline score: 2
Dec 23, 2021 at 19:52	answer	added	Madhav Singh Sodhi		timeline score: 0
Mar 22, 2021 at 12:59	answer	added	ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ		timeline score: 5
Oct 23, 2019 at 12:21	comment	added	Prakash K		All authentic commentaries interpret the word "guna" ... can you please name a couple of authentic commentaries you are referring to?
Aug 19, 2019 at 2:19	comment	added	YDS		Related Are children of Brahmin parents also Brahmin by caste?
Sep 15, 2018 at 15:01	answer	added	YDS		timeline score: 18
Apr 13, 2017 at 12:51	history	edited	CommunityBot		replaced http://hinduism.stackexchange.com/ with https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/
Apr 10, 2017 at 3:23	answer	added	Pradip Gangopadhyay		timeline score: 15
Apr 9, 2017 at 12:05	comment	added	Advaita Charana dasa		(Not writing all this as a separate answer since I'll have to look up references to include, which I cannot do at the moment. But I hope the logic presented helps clarify the verse included in reference, since that is the best reference that I would have thought of using.)
Apr 9, 2017 at 12:04	comment	added	Advaita Charana dasa		@SMJoe The case where such determination based on birth would fail is when there are many inter-caste marriage (which has been the case for the past century or more), thus there rarely being any family that's "brahmana" or "kshatriya" etc. So even if a soul is born in a family that is of "brahmana" caste where the parents have never seriously studied the Vedas, then what can we really know about the guna-karma of that soul? Or a vaishya family where parents are 9-5 office workers, rather than running their own businesses? And so on..
Apr 9, 2017 at 12:01	comment	added	Advaita Charana dasa		@SMJoe This is just about the verse you referred to. I mentioned this in my comment to an answer too, but here is more appropriate. The soul is born in a family based on its guna and karma, rather than the guna and karma being acquired by birth. Karma is accumulated over all previous births, so it cannot be solely determined by birth in this life. Gunas are also determined by impressions (or samskaras) based on many previous lives, and again cannot be determined solely by current birth. However, since birth is determined by guna-karma, it is usually an indication of the soul's proclivities.
Apr 8, 2017 at 12:50	answer	added	Rickross		timeline score: 5
Apr 8, 2017 at 8:09	comment	added	SMJoe		@Swamiji, Now I have made the changes.
Apr 8, 2017 at 8:05	history	edited	SMJoe	CC BY-SA 3.0	added 59 characters in body
Apr 8, 2017 at 8:00	comment	added	Swami Vishwananda		You have misunderstood my comment. Change to the following - which shows that varna/caste was deduced from birth/parentage, and was not deduced from "qualities independent of parentage"
Apr 7, 2017 at 19:01	comment	added	SMJoe		@RakeshJoshi I've commented on the particular answers. None of them seem to satisfy my query.
Apr 7, 2017 at 12:59	comment	added	Rakesh Joshi		hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/17113/7853 @SMJoe and hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/17141/7853 kindly have a look
Apr 7, 2017 at 5:56	comment	added	SMJoe		@TheDestroyer I've made the changes as suggested
Apr 7, 2017 at 5:54	history	edited	SMJoe	CC BY-SA 3.0	Change in question
Apr 7, 2017 at 5:49	comment	added	SMJoe		@Swami Ji, If I change the question, and if there are no such references in Shrutis, I'll be left without an answer. I would like to hear what Smritis say as well. Obviously, if there is any contradiction, the Shrutis will be valid.
Apr 7, 2017 at 5:19	comment	added	The Destroyer♦		As said by Swamiji, it would be better if you limit your question to Vedas. As far as i know, Vedas never say Varna is based on birth.
Apr 7, 2017 at 4:28	comment	added	Swami Vishwananda		I think the question would be better if you asked for shruti references that show caste is dependent upon parentage.
Apr 7, 2017 at 2:38	comment	added	user1195		Heredity is never discounted. Exceptions like Satyakaama were blessed by gurus in spite of heredity not by devaluing or discarding it.
Apr 6, 2017 at 20:57	history	asked	SMJoe	CC BY-SA 3.0

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