Timeline for Any references where varna/caste is determined independent of birth/parentage?
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| Nov 3, 2022 at 4:55 | history | edited | Pradip Gangopadhyay | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 23, 2021 at 21:00 | comment | added | Aupakarana Abhibhaa | @mar Can you think of a reason the talking animals cannot learn the Gayatri mantra? Also what about cancers who can remember learning it as they do not forget their previous lives? | |
| Jan 10, 2019 at 0:35 | comment | added | Ikshvaku | @PradipGangopadhyay How and who will even determine what someone's caste is based on their qualities? And what if you exhibit qualities of all 4 castes? Therefore, the guna based caste system is refuted. | |
| Sep 17, 2018 at 13:31 | comment | added | Pradip Gangopadhyay | Very sad that you equate human beings with fish and deer. | |
| Sep 16, 2018 at 3:23 | comment | added | ram | by that logic, you can teach a fish or a deer gayatri mantra and karma yoga and good conduct. you can try all you want, but it won't be of much use. you're confusing the 'anyone can attain moksha' statement, with 'everyone can attain moksha'. do you really think people got a dvija birth by chance ? good conduct in previous life leads to good birth in this life. good birth in this life implies good conduct in previous life. i've repeated this many times - very rare exceptions for changing varna exist, but telling everyone they're eligible for vedas is highly misleading | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 23:33 | comment | added | Pradip Gangopadhyay | You are inserting the word alone arbitrarily to justify your stand. The word is not there in the quotation I provided. | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 15:55 | comment | added | ram | It does not mean birth is not a requirement. It means birth ALONE is not sufficient. Birth (to brahmin parents) + Purificatory rites (samskara) + learning (vedas) + CONDUCT (achara & anushtana) are required. You're misinterpreting. When Vedas say 'na karmana na prajaya' - meaning you cannot attain moksha by karma or progeny etc. they mean you cannot attain moksha by those ALONE. it does not mean you can simply neglect all of them. | |
| Apr 10, 2017 at 3:23 | history | answered | Pradip Gangopadhyay | CC BY-SA 3.0 |