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| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:29 | comment | added | Curious Seeker | @zaxebo1 , yes udasis are also found often in Kumbh mela I think. It is also believed by some that the 17th asthapadi (octet, astha in sanskrit means 8) of Sukhmani sahib (a composition in SGGS) was composed by Sri Chand when he visited Guru Arjan , the 5th sikh guru, however this is largely disputed . | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:23 | comment | added | Curious Seeker | Udasis and Sikh relationship spoiled especially during the Nanakana massacre . When the corrupt Udasi Mahant of Nanakana (birth place of Nanak) got many sikhs killed by his goons . Udasis live somewhere on the fuzzy borders of hinduism and sikhism. There exists one more such sect , the nirmalas , they however are far more respected than udasis by mainstream sikhs. If I remember correctly they believe in vedas too, and are identified by ochre-colored robes that they wear like angavastram. However the guru had said "Khalsa mero roop hai khaas" (Khalsa is my purest form). | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:23 | comment | added | zaxebo1 | sikhnet.com/news/sindhi-hindus-nanakpanthis-pakistan shows that even "in pakistan" also currently still there are nanakpanthis and udasis. and this article explains a lot of detail about this sect even in pakistan. | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:19 | comment | added | Curious Seeker | Secondly, when sikhs were fighting against mughals in the 18th century, they were outlawed and had to resort to jungle, deserts and swamps to survive. The management of gurudwaras thus passed in hands of Udasis , Later the udasis became corrupt and tried to mix hindu and sikh beliefs such as idol worship in golden temple. Singh Sabha was a reactionary movement to bring the golden temple and other gurudwaras back to how they were in the first place. I don't know about Khem Singh bedi , but today Bedi clan is found among both hindus and sikhs in punjab, Hindu bedis also revere Guru Nanak AFAIK | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:18 | comment | added | Curious Seeker | @KeshavSrinivasan , Udasis are a sect created by Sri Chand , one of the two sons of Guru Nanak. Sri Chand and Lakhmi Chand both did not obey their father and he instead chose to pass his guruship to his obedient disciple who became second guru of sikhs. Sri Chand is not spoken of in nice terms in Sikh scriptures. | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:08 | comment | added | zaxebo1 | @Sikhandyeshallfind Before 1870s sikh term was used for "khalsa sikh" and "sanatani sikh". Both followed same teachings, except that some sanatani sikh do not followed 5Ks. Main difference was that Khalsa sikh beleived that Sikhism is separate religion evolved from hinduism, and sanatani sikhs beleived that their sikhism is a sect within hinduism. Finally both had separate followings. But during 1920s finally Khalsas could get control on gurudwaras. Shankaracharya, Gandhiji all supported Khalsas on this issue.. Now 'currently' term 'sikhism' is mostly used as synonym only for 'Khalsa sikhs'. | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:05 | comment | added | Keshav Srinivasan♦ | @Sikhandyeshallfind Are you saying that there is no one who calls themselves a Sanatan Sikh? Then what are Khem Singh Bedi and the Singh Saba? | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 14:00 | comment | added | Curious Seeker | There's no such thing as "Sanatan Sikh" . The entire article and content of it is invalid . | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 13:54 | history | answered | zaxebo1 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |