Timeline for Any references where varna/caste is determined independent of birth/parentage?
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| Sep 14, 2019 at 17:26 | history | edited | YDS | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 10, 2019 at 0:35 | comment | added | Ikshvaku | @YDS How and who will even determine what someone's caste is based on their qualities? And what if you exhibit qualities of all 4 castes? | |
| Jan 2, 2019 at 2:55 | history | edited | YDS | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 17, 2018 at 6:13 | comment | added | Rickross | So according to u people shd wait for the max limit? Why shd one? More importantly which scriptures say that one shd do so? @YDS | |
| Sep 16, 2018 at 20:16 | comment | added | YDS | @Rickross If max age limits are 16/22/24 (hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/20364/12304) then there is no Q as such "how will people determine the Gunas of a 8 yr old kid.."... | |
| Sep 16, 2018 at 12:30 | comment | added | Rickross | Yes that is enough because of the etymology of Sudra... Guna based system is absurd for practicing that's why it is not followed.. @YDS | |
| Sep 16, 2018 at 10:46 | comment | added | YDS | @Rickross I think Rama lamenting for Sita or for Lakshmana is not the right example or not the enough to declare someone Sudra..But there are many examples for varna change...if someone did something that is permitted to other varna then 1)they had to do something to overcome from that or 2)they were outcasted or 3)they were cursed or 4)their varna got changed... | |
| Sep 16, 2018 at 10:24 | comment | added | Rickross | It is not followed never ever was followed and the reason for that is simple: it is impractical to be followed. Gunas can change within no time.. for e.g a person who is engrossed in grief has become a Sudra.. Take for e.g Rama lamenting for Sita or for Lakshmana.. Did Rama's Varna changed to Sudra from Kshatriya on those times? Rules of initiations can not depend on subtle and occasional changes of Guna.. Also we can not always know what our nature is in truth how will others determine it? No scriptures gave the rules for such tests either. | |
| Sep 16, 2018 at 9:11 | comment | added | YDS | @Rickross First of all, Upnayana for 3 classes is done..so not a problem for them.. only problem is with one class..Now however standard age is 8/11/12 for Upanyana.. but in some cases it can be done till 16 (Agni Puran: Ch 153 says so)..and i think by 16 year the qualities of a person can be determined..So i don't see a problem in following this in practice.. | |
| Sep 16, 2018 at 6:28 | comment | added | Rickross | In this system there will be no Upanyana, the fundamental Vedic Samskara.. Because how will people determine the Gunas of a 8 yr old kid or that of a 11 yr old kid? So theories like this are only good to read in forums but they can't be followed in practice | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 18:10 | comment | added | brahma jijnasa | This is the best answer! | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 17:31 | comment | added | ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ | But though have found mixed castes one. | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 15:01 | history | answered | YDS | CC BY-SA 4.0 |