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Are dreams created by Jivatma or Paramatma? What is the take of Badarayana as per Brahma Sutras and the three principal commentators on it viz. Ramanuja, Shankara and Madhva?

Please provide relevant quotes from genuine scripture and commentaries and don't indulge in scientific explanations or speculations

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Adi Shankaracharya says that dreams are created by the Jiva, as described in this section of his Brahma Sutra Bhashya:

The statement made above that in the Kâthaka the highest Self is spoken of as the shaper of dreams is untrue; for another scriptural passage ascribes that activity to the individual soul, 'He himself destroying, he himself shaping dreams with his own splendour, with his own light' (Bri. Up. IV, 3, 9). And in the Kâthaka Upanishad itself also we infer from the form of the sentence, 'That one who wakes in us while we are asleep,'--which is an anuvâda, i.e. an additional statement about something well known--that he who is there proclaimed as the shaper of lovely things is nobody else than the (well-known) individual soul. The other passage which forms the complementary continuation of the one just quoted ('That indeed is the Bright, that is Brahman') discards the notion of the separate existence of the individual soul and teaches that it is nothing but Brahman, analogously to the passage 'That art thou.' And this interpretation does not conflict with Brahman being the general subject-matter.--Nor do we thereby deny altogether that the highest (prâgña) Self is active in dreams; for as being the Lord of all it may be considered as the guide and ruler of the soul in all its states. We only maintain that the world connected with the intermediate state (i.e. the world of dreams) is not real in the same sense as the world consisting of ether and so on is real.

Ramanujacharya says that dreams are created by Brahman, as described in this section and subsequent sections of his Sri Bhashya:

The things appearing in dreams-chariots, lotus tanks, and so on--are absolute Mâyâ, i.e. things created by the Supreme Person. For the term 'Mâyâ' denotes wonderful things, as appears from passages such as 'She was born in the race of Ganaka, appearing like the wonderful power of the divine being in bodily shape' (devamâyâ). The sense of the passage 'there are no chariots,' &c. then is--there are no chariots and horses to be perceived by any other person but the dreaming one; and then 'he creates chariots,' &c.--i. e. the Supreme Person creates things to be perceived by the dreamer and persisting for a certain time only. Those things therefore are of a wonderful nature (but not illusions). And the creation of such wonderful things is possible for the Supreme Person who can immediately realise all his wishes; but not for the individual soul. The latter also, indeed, fundamentally possesses that power; but as in the Samsâra state the true nature of the soul is not fully manifested, it is then incapable of accomplishing such wonderful creations. The text 'the person shaping one desired thing after the other' declares the Supreme Person to be the creator, for the clauses immediately preceding and following that text (viz. 'He who is awake in those who sleep'; and 'that is the Bright, that is Brahman, that alone is called the Immortal; all worlds are contained in it and no one goes beyond'--Ka. Up. II, 5, 8) mention attributes distinctively characteristic of the Supreme Person. And the Bri. Up. text, 'For he is the maker,' must therefore, in agreement with the Katha-text, also be understood as declaring that it is the Supreme Person only that creates the things seen in a dream.

Madhvacharya also says that dreams are created by Brahman, as described in this excerpt from his Brahma Sutra Bhashya:

  1. The creation (of things) in the intermediate state (of dreaming) (as well as their withdrawal) is the work of the Lord, as scripture says that.

Even dreams are not presented in cognition except by Him ( without the agency of the Lord). This appears from the Sruti "In the state of dream (in the sky, in Svarga, or in heaven), there are no chariots, no horses, no paths; but at that time only the same Lord creates chariots, horses, paths, etc." (Bri. VI. iii. 10).

And most other commentators on the Brahma Sutras agree with Ramanujacharya, as you can see in this excerpt from the Srikantha Shivacharya's commentary, this excerpt from Baladeva Vidyabhushana's commentary, and this excerpt from Nimbarka's commentary.

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    @ChinmaySarupria Well, I suggest you read the relevant sections of Ramanujacharya's Sri Bhashya, which gives a variety of arguments for why Brahman must be responsible. One of the arguments is that dreams can be used to predict the future, which would be impossible if they were just a reflection of a person's wishes and desires. – Keshav Srinivasan Aug 24 '16 at 18:04
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    @Keshav - As per Shankara, Jivatma is Brahman under illusion. So, if Shankara were to say Brahman creates dreams then it leads to dvaita which would obviously be against the tenants of advaita. So, Shankara has to say Jivatma creates dreams. But, indirectly as Jivatma is Brahman under illusion it is Brahman as Jeevathma who is creating the dreams as Jivatma is paramatma as per advaita. – user808 Aug 25 '16 at 6:33
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    @Vishalprabhulawande Yes, according to Ramanujacharya the objects seen in dreams are made of subtle (sukshma) matter which is only visible to the person having the dream. He also says that these objects are created by Brahman as rewards and punishments for various minor good deeds and bad deeds the person has done. (Major good deeds and bad deeds, on the other hand, bear fruit in the waking state and/or the afterlife.) – Keshav Srinivasan Aug 25 '16 at 6:43
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    @KeshavSrinivasan according to my thinking, everything is illusion this world and the dream world too but when someone is consious and aware he understands that it was illusion. when mind was inside dream it was thinking that it is also real For example when jivatma wake up from dream he become conscious that he is in real world(which is also illusion) and the dream was just an illusion for him. When through meditation etc jivatma become conscious he become aware that real world is also illusion. – Friendy Aug 25 '16 at 8:32
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    @ChinmaySarupria The main purpose of dreams is the reward and punishment of minor good deeds and bad deeds. Major good deeds and bad deeds are rewarded either in the waking world or in the afterlife, but if it's a minor good deed or bad deed then it may bear fruit in the form of a pleasant dream or a nightmare. – Keshav Srinivasan Sep 8 '16 at 13:43

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