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Srimad bhagvat mahapuran (5.17.3)

After purifying the seven planets near Dhruvaloka [the polestar], the Ganges water is carried through the spaceways of the demigods in billions of celestial airplanes. Then it inundates the moon [Candraloka] and finally reaches Lord Brahmā’s abode atop Mount Meru.

Srimad bhagvat mahapuran (5.17.5)

On top of Mount Meru, the Ganges divides into four branches, each of which gushes in a different direction [east, west, north and south]. These branches, known by the names Sītā, Alakanandā, Cakṣu and Bhadrā, flow down to the ocean.

Here it says that Ganga flows from meru parvat however, the parvat does not exist where Ganga currently is. So what I want to know exactly is, where is mount meru?

Note: I do not wish to offend anyone regarding my question. Our current thirthas are as holy regardless of their authenticity and I respect their location. Being a Hindu, I would never disrespect any thirth just because they do not match with shastras. Many thirthas have changed locations and this is why I try to find their original location. Sorry if I have offended anybody.

  • Can you pls.clarify abt. what exactly do you want to know. 1) Where is mount meru ? Or 2) why mount meru is not there at "Gangotri"? – SwiftPushkar Dec 6 '16 at 9:15
  • It's looks like from your previous questions that you are more interested in finding the geographical location and information or want the proof of various locations from countries point of view.This type of questions are not suitable on this site. Geography or History SE sites will be more suitable. – SwiftPushkar Dec 6 '16 at 9:22
  • @SwiftPushkar How is this not a geographical question? Also Why is it not suitable? I am also quoting the shastras and not talking with no proof. – Ramesh Bhattarai Dec 6 '16 at 9:50
  • Since from the past there were lot's of changes happned on earts suface.River change roots & they disappeared and new rivers emerg.Also the landmass described in scriptures got divided into various countries.Like China , India ,Nepal , Bhutan etc.There are border disputes among countries also.From that point if view it's difficult to ascertain the location of any place according to description given in scriptures , which were written long ago.... – SwiftPushkar Dec 6 '16 at 9:58
  • Before such changes took place.You are only quoting from puranas for the description of the perticular place but your questions looks like enquiry abt.geographical or geological data – SwiftPushkar Dec 6 '16 at 10:03
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where is mount meru?

The answer itself is given in Shreemad Bhagvatam Skanda 5 Chapter 16 Shlokas 5 to 7. ( A Description of Jambūdvīpa). Its told in bhagvatam that Among Bhumandala there are seven dweepas.The innermost Kosha is "Jambudweepa" .At the center of "Ilavruta" varsha this "Meru Mountain is situated"


यो वायं द्वीप: कुवलयकमलकोशाभ्यन्तर-कोशो  
  नियुतयोजनविशाल: समवर्तुलो यथा पुष्करपत्रम् 5॥॥

yo vāyaṁ dvīpaḥ kuvalaya-kamala-kośābhyantara-kośo niyuta-yojana-viśālaḥ samavartulo yathā puṣkara-patram.

Meaning - The planetary system known as Bhū-maṇḍala resembles a lotus flower, and its seven islands resemble the whorl of that flower. The length and breadth of the island known as Jambūdvīpa, which is situated in the middle of the whorl, are one million yojanas [eight million miles]. Jambūdvīpa is round like the leaf of a lotus flower. SB 5.16.5


यास्मिन्नव वर्षाणि नवयोजनसहस्त्रायामान्यष्टभि  
     र्मर्यादागिरिभि: सुविभक्तानि भवन्ति ॥6॥

yasmin nava varṣāṇi nava-yojana-sahasrāyāmāny aṣṭabhir maryādā-giribhiḥ suvibhaktāni bhavanti.

Meaning -In Jambūdvīpa there are nine divisions of land, each with a length of 9,000 yojanas [72,000 miles]. There are eight mountains that mark the boundaries of these divisions and separate them nicely. SB 5.16.6


ऐषां मध्ये इलावृतं नामाभ्यन्तरवर्षं यस्य 
  नाभ्यामवस्थित: सर्वतः सौवर्ण: कुलगिरिराजो 
  मेरुर्द्विपायामसमुन्नाह: कर्णिकाभूतः कुवलय  
  कमलस्य मूर्धनि द्वात्रिंशत सहस्त्रयोजनविततो मूले  
  षोडशसहस्त्रं तावतान्तर्भुम्यां प्राविष्ठ:॥7॥

eṣāṁ madhye ilāvṛtaṁ nāmābhyantara-varṣaṁ yasya nābhyām avasthitaḥ sarvataḥ sauvarṇaḥ kula-giri-rājo merur dvīpāyāma-samunnāhaḥ karṇikā-bhūtaḥ kuvalaya-kamalasya mūrdhani dvā-triṁśat sahasra-yojana-vitato mūle ṣoḍaśa-sahasraṁ tāvat āntar-bhūmyāṁ praviṣṭaḥ.

Meaning- Amidst these divisions, or varṣas, is the varṣa named Ilāvṛta, which is situated in the middle of the whorl of the lotus. Within Ilāvṛta-varṣa is Sumeru Mountain, which is made of gold. Sumeru Mountain is like the pericarp of the lotuslike Bhū-maṇḍala planetary system. The mountain’s height is the same as the width of Jambūdvīpa — or, in other words, 100,000 yojanas [800,000 miles]. Of that, 16,000 yojanas [128,000 miles] are within the earth, and therefore the mountain’s height above the earth is 84,000 yojanas [672,000 miles]. The mountain’s width is 32,000 yojanas [256,000 miles] at its summit and 16,000 yojanas at its base.

SB 5.16.7

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    Thank you for your answer. In my questions hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/16175/… and hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/16119/… I have shown that Ilāvṛta-varṣa is to the west of Arun river. Like it says, Within Ilāvṛta-varṣa is Sumeru Mountain. If this is the case then how is it possible that ganga resides in gangotri and not near Arun river where Ilāvṛta-varṣa is which contains Sumeru Mountain. This is because Ganga flows from Sumeru parvat. – Ramesh Bhattarai Dec 7 '16 at 3:15
  • @RameshBhattarai It's true that there is a river called Arunoda that flows East from Ilavrita Varsha. But we have no reason to believe that the Arunoda river has anything to do with the Arun river in Nepal. – Keshav Srinivasan Dec 8 '16 at 14:17
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    @KeshavSrinivasan Aruna is just a short form of Arunoda. It says in Shrimad Bhagwat Mahapuran, Pancham Skandha , Chapter 16, shlok 16-21 that "Arunoda is Jambunada" and in Garga Samhita, Visvajita khanda, Chapter 43, Shlok 4-5 it says that "Jambunada is Aruna" meaning Aruna is Arunoda. – Ramesh Bhattarai Dec 8 '16 at 15:36
  • No, verse 16-21 do not say that Arunoda is the Jambu river. – Keshav Srinivasan Dec 8 '16 at 16:01

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