As we all know, the Brahmanas of the Vedas describe rituals to attain to the post of various deities through the performance of Yagas(or Yajñas) among other things.

The most famous of these is the one where the fruit is the post of Indra, with the prescribed ritual being the Ashwamedha Yagna performed a hundred times. The deities such as Indra, Brahma, etc,. are part of the world cycle cosmogeny and have finite lifespans (though it seems infinite in comparison to short human lives).

My Question is as follows: Do any of the scriptures talk about the ritual(s) to be followed to attain to the Post of Brahma?

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    the notion of brahma being a post is late sectarian. As late as Ramayana he is called Suprene Brahman.
    – S K
    Commented Mar 25, 2021 at 13:49
  • @SK - Ramayana occurred in Treta Yuga, which is at least 8.64 lakh years ago. which 'late' sectarian cretaceous era are you referring you ?
    – ram
    Commented Mar 26, 2021 at 0:08
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    late = later composed scripture @mar when it comes to hindu scripture, to me time is only textual time, linguistic time, perhaps historical time, if attested by Greeks,Chinese,Arabs,Jains and Buddhists.
    – S K
    Commented Mar 26, 2021 at 0:18
  • Buddha visit brahma-loka, but still unsatisfied
    – blue_ego
    Commented Jan 29, 2023 at 14:05

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It is only the view of Shaivas, Vaisnavas etc.. who think Lord Brahma is a post and one can achieve it by doing Karmas/Yajnas.

For the Hiranyagarbhas; Lord Brahma is the ultimate reality and is the Lord of the all. So, he is not post but he is Supreme Lord.

In the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad Vartika (3.7) Sureshwaracharya, who is direct disciple of Adi Shankaracharya writes:

यः पृथिव्यामितीशोऽसावन्तर्यामी जगद्गुरु ।
हरिर्ब्रह्मा पिनाकीति बहुधैकोऽपि गीयते ।।

He who is residing inside the prithivi devata but whom prithivi devata doesn't know is said to be Antaryami and is the teacher of the universe. That Antaryami has been sung as Hari, Brahma and Pinaki (Shiva) and many.

From the above quote it is clear that during the time of Sureshwaracharya too there were Hiranayagarbhas who hold Lord Brahma as the Antaryami of all (and not as post/position).

In this chapter of Mahabharata too Lord Brahma is told to be unmanifest, and declared as unborn:

तथा प्रजापतिर्ब्रह्मा अव्यक्तः प्रभुरव्ययः
येनेदं निखिलं विश्वं जनितं स्थावरं चरम्॥
अण्डजातं तु ब्रह्माणं केचिदिच्छन्त्यपण्डिताः।
अण्डाद्भिन्नाद्बभुः शैला दिशोऽम्भः पृथिवी दिवम्॥
द्रष्टव्यं नैतदेवं हि कथं जायेदजो हि सः।
स्मृतमाकाशमण्डं तु तस्माज्जातः पितामहः॥

The Lord of all creatures, Brahma, unmanifest, endued with puissance, and of unfading glory, who created this boundless universe with its mobile and immobile creatures (is a Brahman). Some persons there are, destitute of wisdom, who say that Brahma was born of an Egg. From the original Egg, when it burst forth, mountains and the points of the compass and the waters and the earth and the heavens all sprang forth into existence. This birth of the creation was not seen by any one. How then can Brahma be said to have taken his birth from the original Egg, when especially he is declared as Unborn? It is said that vast uncreate Space is the original Egg. It was from this uncreate Space that the Grandsire was born.

One of the important quote in the above passage is "How then can Brahman be said to have taken his birth from the original Egg, when especially he is declared as Unborn?"

But where is Lord Brahma declared to be unborn?  Actually it is in the Vedas itself Lord Brahma is declared as unborn; ie. As self existent. I discuss it in my answer here and quote is from Shatapatha Brahmana of Yajurveda:

  1. Verily, Pragâpati alone was here in the beginning. He desired, 'May I exist, may I reproduce myself!' He toiled, he practised austerity (or, became heated). From him, worn out and heated, the waters were created: from that heated Person the waters are born.

The above quote is itself self-explanatory. Not only in Vedas also in many Puranas Lord Brahma is declared as unborn. Actually many people are aware of only Puranas glorifying just Vishnu or Shiva. But there are plenty and plenty of passages in many Puranas which state Lord Brahma is the Lord of all. For eg. 1.4 of Kurma Purana:

He resorts to the special creation, destroys as well, while protecting the same at the same time. Because of the said quality, he is conceived to be one in all the three times, i.e. past, present and nature. The eternal Hiranyagarbha Brahma appeared first of all. Because of his emerging on earth, first of all, he has been known as Adideva. Because of his being unborn, he is also called as Aja. All the people are maintained by him because of which he is also known as Prajapati. (Kurma Purana 1.4)

Now, again there are many objectors who claim that Lord Brahma is born. He takes birth from lotus navel of Vishnu etc.. etc.. First of all the view of Brahma coming from navel of Vishnu is not mentioned in Vedas at all, it is only view of Puranas and some parts of Mahabharata. Even Vasistha when gives description about creation of Universe in Ayodhya Kanda starts from mentioning of Lord Brahma.

And secondly Brahma taking birth from Vishnu is just stated to be act of Brahma itself in Puranas. For eg. In Kurma Purana (1.9) it is told that Brahma enters stomach of Vishnu and emerges from navel of Vishnu and thus giving his name Padmayoni. So, it is not his real birth at all. Again there are some things like life if Brahma being age of 100 yrs. etc.. etc.. It is all thing which is planned by Lord Brahma himself for the purpose of manifestation of creation. It his only his pretence. It is made clear itself in Vishnu Purana:

PARÁŚARA.--The essential properties of existent things are objects of observation, of which no foreknowledge is attainable; and creation, and hundreds of properties, belong to Brahma, as inseparable parts of his essence, as heat, oh chief of sages, is inherent in fire. Hear then how the deity Náráyána, in the person of Brahmá, the great parent of the world, created all existent things. Brahmá is said to be born: a familiar phrase, to signify his manifestation; and, as the peculiar measure of his presence, a hundred of his years is said to constitute his life: that period is also called Param, and the half of it, Parárddham. I have already declared to you, oh sinless Brahman, that Time is a form of Vishńu: hear now how it is applied to measure the duration of Brahmá, and of all other sentient beings, as well as of those which are unconscious, as the mountains, oceans, and the like. (Vishnu Purana 1.3)

So, it is clear from above passage when it is said that Brahma is born it is said just to signify his presence.

The actual Sanskrit verse used in that passage of Vishnu Purana is as:

निजेन तस्य मानेन आयुर्वर्षशतं स्मृतम् ।
As a result of this pretence he is said to have age of 100 years.

So, it is clear that Lord Brahma is not a post he is Lord.

For the passages like 'Brahma is Jeeva' we can say 'As Lord Brahma is everything, so yes he is also a Jeeva.' For the various episodes like Lord Brahma being cursed or similar things like this, these are just Leelas of Lord Brahma.

Regarding the views of Shaivas, Vaisnavas etc.. they would have their own interpretations of the quoted passages (obviously). And they may also have rituals, statements etc.. for attaining position of Brahma. But I'm answering the question not by giving rituals to get post of Brahma but by showing that 'Lord Brahma is not post at all.'

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    @sv. And another reason why I wrote this answer is because I see in this site every Tom and Harry person insults Lord Brahma by saying 'Brahma is just a post, He is sinful, He just doing his task. etc.. etc..' Even if Brahma is post one can't speak against him in lowly manners as he is the Creator of the Universe. It can't be that every Tom and Harry person has right to insult Lord Brahma who is the creator of this Universe. So I choose to write answer defending Supreme status of Lord Brahma.
    – Tezz
    Commented Jun 3, 2017 at 0:02
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    @sv. Regarding downvotes I think it might be srimannarayana effect. And anyway Sureshwaracharya (who is disciple of Adi Shankara) also says one can have Brahma as his Antaryami and Adi Shankara himself in VSB says 'who sees difference in Brahma Vishnu and Maheswara goes to hell.' Sri Rudram itself says 'Namo Midhustamaya Cha / who is in the form of Hiranyagarbha' And the Matsya Purana says 'The Supreme Lord Brahma made Rudra the Lord of Pashus and Vishnu the Lord of Adityas.'
    – Tezz
    Commented Jun 3, 2017 at 0:08
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    @TheDestroyer So did you conclude that the downvotes are from Vishishta Advaitans? What made you think like that? Don't we have any work to do other than downvoting all posts? Commented Jun 17, 2017 at 16:06
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    Just like Brahma, Indra is also said to be the Lord of all the worlds and Devas(hence Devendra). So, Indra is not a post? I think the post is downvoted because the answer doesn't properly address the question about rituals @TheDestroyer Commented Jun 17, 2017 at 16:12
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    @SreeCharan well I'm not sure if there existed a sect like Indrayatism or not.. but surely there were Hairanyagarbhas who think Lord Brahma is supreme... but if there is a sect like Indrayates we can find many things about him in Veda and Upanishad like 'Heaven and Earth are just half of Indra, Indra extends beyond Heaven and Earth. Indra is Lord of all moving and unmoving etc...' one difficultly is Kena Upanishad which shows Indra is not Brahman... and I don't think there are Itihasa and Puranas which say Indra is supreme whereas there are many passages saying Brahma as Supreme...
    – Tezz
    Commented Jun 18, 2017 at 0:52

A person who executes his occupational duty properly for one hundred births becomes qualified to occupy the post of Brahma, and if he becomes more qualified, he can approach Lord Siva...

Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 4 TEXT 29

sva-dharma-niṣṭhaḥ śata-janmabhiḥ pumān viriñcatām eti tataḥ paraṁ hi mām avyākṛtaṁ bhāgavato 'tha vaiṣṇavaṁ padaṁ yathāhaṁ vibudhāḥ kalātyaye

A person who executes his occupational duty properly for one hundred births becomes qualified to occupy the post of Brahmā, and if he becomes more qualified, he can approach Lord Śiva. A person who is directly surrendered to Lord Kṛṣṇa, or Viṣṇu, in unalloyed devotional service is immediately promoted to the spiritual planets. Lord Śiva and other demigods attain these planets after the destruction of this material world.

  • @sv There are 6 temples for Brahma in total. There are no worshippers of Brahma and I don't know of any literature remnant of of a lost Hiranyagarbha tradition. Please don't make a thing out of nothing! Yet, Brahma is the highest position in the material work a soul can achieve, having followed varnashrama dharma perfectly for 100 years. No one can ridicule him as a "nobody". Commented Apr 7, 2022 at 4:29

I dont know if it would be called a ritual or an over-appreciation. From Kaankal-Malini Tantra:

आग्नेयमुच्यते भस्म दुग्धगोमय संम्भवम्‌ । शोधयेन्मूलमन्त्रेण अष्ठोत्तरशतं जपन्‌ ॥३२॥

The Bhasma is called Agneya if it is made with help of cow Milk and cow dung. One must perform its Shodhan by reciting the Mool-Mantra 108 times.

Then the tantra goes on explaining where one must apply this Bhasma. This is what it says for the Tilak I.e. the Tripundra.

मध्यमानामिकाङ्गष्ठेन तिलकं तत:। तिलकं तिस्त्ररेखा स्थात्‌ रेखानां नवधा मतः। पृथिव्यग्निस्तथा शक्ति: क्रियाक्षक्तिमहेश्वर: ॥३५॥

देव: प्रथमरेखायां भक्त्या ते परिकीत्तित:। नमस्वांश्चेव सुभगे द्वितीया चेव देवता। परमात्मा शिवो देव देवस्तृतीयायाश्च देवता । एतान्नित्यं नमस्छुत्य त्रिपुण्डं घारयेतु यदि ॥३६॥

There are three lines in an Tilak, Tantriks have opinion of nine such lines. These lines represent the gods- earth (Pruthvi), Agni (fire) and Shakti respectively. O Devi, the first line is Mahadeva, the second NabhAshwan and third ParmAtma Shiva. Salute them and apply the Tripundra.

Then the Tantra explains what are the benifits one receives by applying the Tripundra (?- is it really just the Tripudra or something more is to be done is not stated. I speculate, there must be more to it)

भुक्‍त्वा भोगान्‌ सुविपुलं प्रदेशानां पुरेषु च। ब्रह्मण: पदमासाद्य तत्र वल्पायुतं वसेत्‌ ॥५५॥

Then he (who applies Tripudra) takes authority of Brahma for 10 thousand kalpas.

(There are more benifits, but out of scope of the question)

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    Umm...Looks like a ritual. an easy one at that, in my opinion, that every other, Tom, Duck & Harry, could do and attain the Brahma-padam. But, I think it's impossible to attain the post (if one would like to call it a post.) ;))
    – Vivikta
    Commented Mar 25, 2021 at 14:31

Ok, again. Anyways, let me give you two ways. Choose which ever is easier for you.

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ब्रह्मत्वं केशवत्वं वा शक्रत्वं वा सुरैः सह। त्रैलोक्यस्याधिपत्यं वा तुष्टो रुद्रः प्रयच्छति 13-49-65

"Vasudeva said,...If Rudra be gratified with a person, he can confer upon him the states of either Brahma or of Kesava (Vishnu) or of Sakra with all the deities under him, or the sovereignty of the three worlds. Those men, O sire, who worship Bhava even mentally, succeed in freeing themselves from all sins and attain to a residence in heaven with all the gods..."

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Sri Bhavisya Purana 2.1.10.:

सहकारसहस्रात्तु वरिष्ठं धातकीद्वयम् ।। तस्माच्चैव सहस्राद्धि पाटलैका विशिष्यते ।। ५१ ।। पाटलानां शतात्पश्चादेकरक्तवटो भवेत् ।। वटानां द्विसहस्राच्च पंचकं नागकेशरम् ।। ५२ ।। तस्माद्वरिष्ठः श्रीवृक्षो जंबूवृक्षः प्रशस्यते ।। तस्माद्धिमवतो ज्ञेयः श्रीपर्णीवृक्ष उत्तमः ।। ५३ ।। तिंदुकस्य त्रयश्चैव जंबूवृक्षस्य पंचकम् ।। कदंबार्जुनवृक्षस्य नारिकेरस्य च त्रयम् ।। एवमुक्त्वा स धर्मात्मा कारयेत्कीदृशं बलम् ।। ५४ ।। कल्पकोटिसहस्राणि कल्पकोटिशतानि च ।। स्वर्गभोगं समश्नाति विधिवद्द्रुमरोपणे ।। ५५ ।। जन्मत्रयादिकं पापं विनाश्य स्वर्गमादिशेत् ।। शतरोपी च ब्रह्मत्वं विष्णुत्वं च सहस्रके ।। ५६ ।।

51-56. Planting only two Dhataki trees from thousands of mango trees is said to be the best, similarly one Patal tree is said to be the best from thousands of Pataki. One Raktabat from hundreds of Patals, five trees of Nagkeshar from two thousand Badhi, Shrivriksha and Jamun trees are said to be better than that, and three Tendu, five Jamun, Kadamba Arjun and three coconut trees are said to be the best. They must be planted, what kind of strength that pious soul gets by planting such trees, (I am telling). By planting these many types of trees, he gets the enjoyment of heaven for a thousand crores of kalpas, and a hundred crores of kalpas. The sins of the three births are destroyed and heaven is attained soon, so by planting hundred trees, one has been told to attain Brahmahood and thousand to attain Vishnuhood respectively.

I hope this clarifies all your queries. Prd..


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