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Following statement of Krishna related to Varna

According to the three modes of material nature and the work ascribed to them, the four Varnas of human society were created by Me. And, although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the non-doer, being unchangeable.

In Vedic astrology, there is Varna. It is solely based on the birth Zodiac sign of the person i.e., on birth details as follows

  1. BRAHMIN VARNA : Person whose Birth Rashi is Cancer or Scorpio or Pisces is considered Brahmin by Varna in Hindu Vedic Astrology .

  2. KSHATRIYA VARNA : Person whose Birth Rashi is Aries or Leo or Sagittarius is considered Kshatriya by Varna in Hindu Vedic Astrology.

  3. VAISHYA VARNA: Person whose Birth Rashi is Taurus or Virgo or Capricorn is considered Vaishya by Varna in Hindu Vedic Astrology.

  4. SHUDRA VARNA : Person whose Birth Rashi is Gemini or Libra or Aquarius is considered Shudra by Varna in Hindu Vedic Astrology.

The names of Varnas in both cases are same, my doubt is whether the Varna system told by Krishna is same as the Varna in astrology or not?

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    haha @hanugm . You are really obsessed with this! Why don't you give this topic a break for a couple of months and then come back to it. You may have some fresh insights. Meanwhile, let's obsess over something else :-D
    – user1195
    Jul 6 '17 at 8:56
  • @moonstar2001 I am trying well for deviation. Hopefully I may overcome obsession.
    – hanugm
    Jul 6 '17 at 9:08
  • :-) then we hope to see some interesting Qs from you.
    – user1195
    Jul 6 '17 at 9:28
  • No, varnas get divided automatically by birth in first half 12000 years(when Rama, Krishna were born).When Krishna left earth around 3000 BC, Kaliyuga ascending cycle started for 12000 years(also called en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius) which contains dominant westerners, science, research like modern mobiles, rockets to reach Satyuga again(by 10000 AD). dwapara-yuga.org .Ascending yuga doesnot contain strict caste-system, like only 15% world is Hindu,rest are united atheist,Abrahamics & Hindus are divided and puranic, not original Vedic & without guidance of Saptrishis
    – user22687
    May 15 at 20:58
  • One can see varna or nature of person from planets as well, dominant Jupiter, Venus in ascendant or rashi is Brahmin, dominant Sun, Mars is Kshatriya, Dominant Moon, Mercury is Vaishya and dominant Saturn, Rahu is Shudra. Rashis or moon sign can be seen to find internal varna of person but say if someone has Moksha Brahmin rashi with Moon of Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces, but has bad/weak Jupiter and Venus and strong Rahu/Saturn in rashi or ascendant than he/she will show nature of Shudra not Brahmin, therefore all planets must be analyzed to conclude varna of a soul, not moon sign alone.
    – user22687
    May 16 at 10:47
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Swami Vivekananda considered the astrological Varna to be the true Varna.

Every Hindu knows that astrologers try to fix the caste of every boy or girl as soon as he or she is born. That is the real caste — the individuality, and Jyotisha (astrology) recognises that. And we can only rise by giving it full sway again. This variety does not mean inequality, nor any special privilege.

The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, Volume 4, Writings Prose, A Plan of Work for India (Written to Justice Sir Subrahmanya Iyer from Chicago, 3rd Jan., 1895.)

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  • Sir so Nature and Astrology both are considered ?? Jun 23 at 14:27
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    My guess is that it is enough to consult only jyotish. The varna obtained from jyotish will map with one's nature. Jun 24 at 4:26
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It is the same thing. Varna was not just created for humans. A person's social Varna cannot be determined by his kundali. This is because you have different Lagna, Chandra-Lagna, Surya-Rashi etc.

Then different Rashi have different Nakshatra which have different Varna. For example,

  • Vrishabh Rashi has vaishya varna.

  • Krittika Nakshatra is in Vrishabh Rashi and it has brahmin varna

  • Rohini Nakshatra is also in Vrishabh Rashi of shudra varna

So basically we generally have 4 varnas based on lagna and chandra lagna. Then if we take surya into account it becomes 6 varnas generally for each person.

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