After a yogi enters into samadhi state by doing concentration in some object, i've heard and read that he enters into such state where all the physical sensations, sound, sight goes. And his mind becomes totally silent. reference After this i don't understand it logically that how should he again progress his concentration, or at what object he should concentrate since all his sensations have gone. I am only trying to understand how meditation works logically. I am little confused with this part.

  • Dear @DineshLama, your name suggests that you belong to a buddhist tradition of monks. Is your teacher unavailable for answers. For they are the best source of information on such aspects especially if they have initiated you in the first place. – user1195 Jul 12 '17 at 17:44
  • That's fine. Looking for a path that suits us is fine. But trying to learn without a teacher is hazardous to say the least. Please look for a proper teacher. – user1195 Jul 12 '17 at 17:55
  • Swami Vivekananda says "Control the mind, cut off the senses, the you are a Yogi; after that all the rest will come." Worry about how to scale the mountain in front of you, do not worry about what is on the other side of the mountain. If you can cut off your senses then your own mind will show you what to concentrate on after that. Take care of today and tomorrow will take care of itself. – Swami Vishwananda Jul 13 '17 at 5:00

In samadhi there is a state of non-duality. When there is "something" to focus on then it is a state of duality. So in the state of samadhi the object of mediation and meditator are one and the same. Hence there is nothing to focus upon. There is only awareness and bliss.

ता एव सबीजस्समाधिः ॥४६॥ (patanjali yoga sutra)

tā eva sabījas-samādhiḥ ॥46॥

All of these states of consciousness are called sabija samadhi. ||46||

tasyāpi nirodhe sarva-nirodhān-nirbījaḥ samādhiḥ ॥51॥ (PY)

Nirbiija samadhi is attained once even these impressions have become tranquil and when everything has become tranquil. ||51||

From the book of Yogananda Paramahansa

Patanjali defines these states in his classification of the various stages of interiorized meditation. In Yoga Sutras 1:17-18, he refers to two basic categories of samadhi:

(1) samprajnata and

(2) asamprajnata.

As applied to advanced stages of realization, samprajnata refers to savikalpa ("with difference") samadhi, or divine union in which there remains some distinction between the knower and the known, as in the realization "Thou and I are One." In greater or lesser degree, some modifications of nature remain. But in asamprajnuta samadhi, all differentiations of nature are resolved into the one Spirit. The consciousness of "Thou and I are One" becomes "I am He, who has become this little form of 'I' and all forms." This is not the egotist's proclamation, "I am God!"—the brass crown of megalomania—but rather the full realization of the absolute truth: God is the only Reality. Thus asamprajnata, in its absolute definition, is nirvikalpa ("without difference") samadhi, the highest yoga or union manifested by fully liberated masters or those on the threshold of soul freedom. (...)

Patanjali divides samprajnata samadhi into four stages:

(1) savitarka ("with doubt or conjecture"): intuitive experience mixed with argumentative or doubt-ridden mind;

(2) savichara ("with reasoning or pondering"): intuitive experience mixed with discrimination-guided intellect;

(3) sananda ("with joy"): interiorized intuitive experience interpreted by chitta or joy-permeated feeling; and

(4) sasmita ("with 'I-ness'" or individuality): intuitive experience mixed with a pure sense of being.

These four states, which come after interiorization (pratyahara), are the result of deep concentration (dharana), or superconscious perception as limited to the body. (Yoga Sutras 1:17)

When these four stages of samprajnata have been resolved one by one into the next higher state, the yogi goes beyond them and attains asamprajnata samadhi. This comes in deep meditation (dhyana) in which concentration (dharana) is continuous, with no flicker of interruption; then the object of meditation (i.e., a particular concept or manifestation of God) is experienced as manifested not only in the body but in omnipresence. Beyond these states, in the advanced stages of realization, samprajnata and asamprajnata are understood to mean, respectively, savikalpa and nirvikalpa samadhi. Patanjali says that attainment of the highest samadhi is possible "by profound, devoted meditation on (the Lord) Ishvara (1:23).... His symbol is Aum (1:27)." (Chapter I, God Talks With Arjuna: The Bhagavad Gita by Paramahansa Yogananda)

  • Hence there is nothing to focus upon. But on smadhi one must use a mantra of his/her beloved Lord. Hence he must have full focus on his Lord. By this way many has chants mantra of their lord (Aaradhya) and got boom from them. Isn't that true that their complete focus was on their Lord, that's why Lord grant them boon? If they are chanting Shiva mantra then Shiva will get Happy coz focus was on Shiva. If there is nothing to focus then which Lord will be happy by us and why? – Rishabh Jul 13 '17 at 4:38
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    @Rishabh that is contemplation. which is called Dharana or dhyana. After this in samadhi you and god are not separate. so nothing to contemplate upon. You are one with the source. Samadhi is elated state of being. Its not for making any gods happy. Mantra or other mediums are until the stage of dharana. – Rakesh Joshi Jul 13 '17 at 4:41
  • Someone becomes able to chat with Lord directly (heard a lot about this and saw live examples also). They can talk with lord whenever they want. Is this can be possible when someone once reached at Samadhi state? Or this can be done without samadhi also? What you think about this? – Rishabh Jul 13 '17 at 4:45
  • @Rishabh Communication with the Lord is not a verbal one. In samadhi there is only one so with whom to talk ? – Rakesh Joshi Jul 13 '17 at 4:56

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