When real nature of ultimate reality is beyond the physicality of the universe, beyond time & space - Which can't be described by the words then what Arjuna saw actually, because he was describing what he was seeing? Was that Saguna form of Brahman? or something else? Because it can't be transcendental aspect of ultimate reality. Has any acharya shed light on this?

  • Why do you say it can't be transcendental aspect of ultimate reality? Nov 20, 2017 at 14:29
  • Because transcendence can't mingle with immanence. Mingling of an immanent entity (Arjun) with transcendence distorts the very nature of transcendence. IMO. @LakshmiNarayanan Nov 20, 2017 at 14:55
  • Transcendence means limitless or beyond imagination. Immanent means inherent or pervasive - the two can simultaneously describe Brahman without conflict. Nov 20, 2017 at 15:12
  • Still question remains intact. Nov 20, 2017 at 15:20
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    @Rohit, the entire world is immanent, and is going to be destroyed. Does that mean Brahman is not in the world? Does it distort the nature of transcendence? You don't understand what 'beyond' means. If I can hold an ice cube in my left hand and a burning lamp in my right hand without any trouble from either, it means 'i am beyond heat and cold'. If I cannot hold either that does not mean 'i am beyond heat and cold'. 'Beyond' means Both, not Neither.
    – ram
    Nov 20, 2017 at 19:39

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Whether it was Saguna Brahman or not, Vishwaroop form was not of the Krishna. it was of the kAla which was superimposed upon the personality of Krishna because of Krishna's yogic powers which he describes to Arjuna in Uttara Geeta. Arjuna asks following question in BG-

BG 11.31: Tell me who you are, so fierce of form. O God of gods, I bow before you; please bestow your mercy on me. You, who existed before all creation, I wish to know who you are, for I do not comprehend your nature and workings.

To which the Vishwaroop form replies thus-

BG 11.32: The Supreme Lord said: I am mighty Time(kAla), the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. Even without your participation, the warriors arrayed in the opposing army shall cease to exist.

So whatever be it, it was kAla. Now, this answer explains the kAla - what the kAla is.

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