Our body is city of 9 gates. My question is how a devotee leaves a body and is different from a Yogi who quits his body for Moksha. Generally in Tantric Yoga it is said one whose soul exits through Sushumna Nadi/skull will get Moksha. If that's the case, how a devotee would leave his body for Moksha?
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2Same sushumna nadi - Archiradi margam. When death comes, it is very dark internally for the jiva, and out of 101 nadis that emerge from heart, you have to catch the 101st (sushumna) to leave the body. Any other nadi, we have to return to samsara. In that darkness, we need light to find the nadi. While that light is given to all jivas by Bhagavan, only Yogis are able to control the light and put it into a lantern and hold it and search and find the nadi. Others cannot. Except devotees who surrender, then Bhagavan holds the lantern for them. We still have to catch the nadi with our last prana.– marAug 25, 2018 at 23:28
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"Except devotees who surrender, Bhagavan holds lantern for them" -can't get this? Meaning will Bhagavan himself pick up that soul annd no self effort is needed?– Agamas TantrasAug 26, 2018 at 0:09
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Yep. the only effort needed is to surrender. But that is very, very difficult because of ego. it is so difficult that people would rather become a yogi to achieve it by themselves than to surrender.– marAug 26, 2018 at 0:37
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2yes, when u surrender, u get god's grace– marAug 26, 2018 at 2:16
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1In Chapter 4, last section of the Brahma Sutras. here - wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras– Swami VishwanandaAug 28, 2018 at 4:22
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Have a look at the following verse from Kathopanishad's (Kath UP) Tritiya Valli:
ShataichekA cha hridasya nAdyastAsAm murdhAnamabhinihsritaikA |
TayorddhvamAyannmritatvameti vishvanganyA utkramane bhavanti ||Among the 101 NAdis, that emerge from the region of heart, only one has gone up to the Brahmarandhra. During the time of death, only if the [the vital breath] is made to travel upwards through this NAdi bestows immortality or Moksha. If this moving out [of the vital breath] happens through any other NAdis then SamsAra Gati (i.e rebirths) is the result.
Kath Up 2.3.16
There can be many NAdis but the three principle ones among them are - IdA, PingalA and SushumnA. Of which the SushumnA is the one that is only capable of bestowing salvation.
The one NAdi being talked about in the above verse is the same SushumnA which ends in the orifice at the crown of the head (Brahmarandhra).
The Kundalini Sakti is of the form of eight Prakritis (matter) and coils itself eight ways or (times). The movement of Vayus (vital airs) checks duly the food and drink all round by the side of Skandha. It closes by its head (the opening of) the Brahmarandhra and during the time of (the practice of) Yoga is awakened by the fire (in the Apana); then it shines with great brilliancy in the Akasa of the heart in the shape of wisdom. Depending upon Kundalini which is situated in the centre, there are fourteen principal Nadis (viz.,) Ida, Pingala, Susumna, Sarasvati, Varuni, Pusha, Hastijihva, Yasasvini, Visvodhari, Kuhuh, Sankhini, Payasvini, Alambusa and Gandhari. Of them, Susumna is said to be the sustainer of the universe and the path of salvation. Situated at the back of the anus, it is attached to the spinal column and extends to the Brahmarandhra
(From the minor Upanishad called Sandilya Upanishad)
So, the summary is, it does not matter who's getting Moksha - it can be a Yogi, one who is not a Yogi, a devotee or a non-devotee - but the method remains the same for all of them. That is the vital breath must leave the body only through the Brahmarandhra in all such cases.
So, to answer your question, even for a devotee, the vital breath must leave the body through the Brahmarandhra only, if he/she has to get Moksha.
If it moves out through any other orifices then rebirth is the result.
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That's correct. But when I read Prahalada story from wikipedia, they said he died. This made me to throw this question. Aug 26, 2018 at 8:35
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@AkshayKumarS When the soul leaves the body the body dies.. so what is surprising there?– RickrossAug 26, 2018 at 8:42
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@AkshayKumarS Ok.. if he also got Moksha then his soul must have left the body through the head only..– RickrossAug 26, 2018 at 9:30
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Ok but last year I read in an article saying Ragavendra swamy previous birth was Prahalada and also appeared in Ragavendra movie Aug 26, 2018 at 9:46