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Can Shudras do Upanayanam or perform Yajnas as per Vedas?

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    I believe Vedas do not accept varnas to be based on birth and Varna migration is possible too. It doesn't matter if Sudra perform Yajna or Upanayana (unless doesn't follow process) – CR241 Dec 28 '18 at 0:36
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    @CR241 Vedas support birth based caste system. All the castes were created from the body of the Purusha. – Ikshvaku Dec 28 '18 at 0:41
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No, the Taittiriya Samhita of the Krishna Yajur Veda forbids Shudras from engaging in sacrifices.

7.1.1 says:

From his feet he meted out the Ekavinça Stoma. After it the Anustubh metre [5] was created, the Vairaja Saman, of men the Çudra [Shudra], of cattle the horse. Therefore the two, the horse and the Çudra, are dependent on others. Therefore the Çudra is not fit for the sacrifice, for he was not created after any gods. Therefore they depend on their feet, for they were created from the feet.

Also, note the phrase "for they were created from the feet", is found in the Purusha Sukta hymn as well.

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    birth & guna/karma are like 2 sides of the same coin. your guna/karma/occupation in this birth determines your varna in next birth. and varna determines what guna/karma/occupation you are supposed to cultivate. if i am born in a brahmana kula, but take up agriculture/business, then in next birth, i am born as vaishya (after some punishment for not following brahmana-karma). then in that birth, instead of doing job of vaishya, if I take up arms to fight, then the next birth after that, i am born as kshatriya (after some punishment for not following vaishya-karma). – ram Dec 28 '18 at 2:35
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    whatever kula i am born in is the best-suited for my tastes according to innumerable past vasanas. there was no confusion about this in ancient days. but due to varna-sankara (caste-mixing), which was feared by Arjuna in Gita, people are now confused because they have both characteristics from parents - if father brahmana & mother vaishya, child may have tendencies to be a business consultant. father kshatriya & wife shudra, child wanna be an army peon. that's why people nowadays are questioning the very foundation of varna-ashrama dharma, cos there is more confusion than clarity. – ram Dec 28 '18 at 2:38
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    they want to cut off the head to cure headache. there is no inherent fault in 'birth-based' system. but since people can't/don't follow it, they question the ideal. – ram Dec 28 '18 at 2:40
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    Satya kama jabala is famous rishi.. in moksha dharma bhisma defines the qualities of bhramana(daya, constant thinking of god, satya, souchaman ..etc.) if the same qualities are found he should be regarded as brahmana..but for yagnas one should intiation its vicious cycle. – Prasanna R Dec 28 '18 at 7:03
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    @prasannaragothaman Satya Kama Jabala was born as a Brahmin, the Brahma Sutra commentators unanimously agree on this. – Ikshvaku Dec 28 '18 at 15:03

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