Do religious rituals bear effect in other countries like America, UK, mleccha deshas? Do vedic rites like sandhya-vandana, tarpana, shraddha give phala in countries other than India (Bharata varsha / karma bhoomi / punya bhoomi) ?

I have heard from elders that they do not yield the same results, at least in Kali Yuga. See discussion by Kanchi Periyavar

But also heard that if someone is living abroad, they should not stop doing these rituals, so that the vasanas/samskaras will stay alive in our minds, so that when they do visit / return to India, those vasanas will compel them to perform the rituals here and gain results. Basically, not to lose touch with our duties and for peace of mind of having done it.

But, there is also fear of unwanted results e.g. doing Gayatri Japa at night gives shakthi to Asuras instead of Devas..
So, should we specifically avoid vedic karmas in foreign lands for fear of adverse results ?

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    They work. See this video youtu.be/L2KWaNdeYj8
    – The Destroyer
    Commented Jan 8, 2019 at 6:04
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    I have answered it here Commented Jan 8, 2019 at 6:07
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    In all divpas (island) god is there sapthadvipa nivashinam karma bhoomi means its like in home there are several places you can pray to god. but you would have designated one place to perform pooja.. i.e. pooja room.. Bharata Varsha(pooja room) but karma performed in any place is still valid.. please perform according to your capacity don't leave
    – Prasanna R
    Commented Jan 8, 2019 at 13:30
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    @TriyugiNarayanMani, so your answer is No. I thought I saw another comment which linked to a post which said Yes, trying to find that and compare sources.
    – ram
    Commented Jan 9, 2019 at 1:46
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    I disagree with this nonsensical premise that Vedic/Hindu rituals are exclusive to India. The whole earth is Mata Bhumi and therefore it is acceptable to practice Vedic rituals anywhere on it.
    – Vyper
    Commented Jan 13, 2019 at 2:08

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Many contemporary Acharyas say that Yajnas don't yield fruits overseas, or they say that Yajnas only yield fruits for the first generation of Indians living overseas, but that it's recommended to do Vedic yajnas in India.

The Manusmriti supports this notion:

But the region where the spotted deer roams by nature is to be known as the ‘land fit for sacrificial acts’; beyond that is the ‘land of the Mlecchas.’ (23)

The "region where the spotted deer roams" refers to the Indian subcontinent, and this is the deer that it's referring to.

Verses from other Dharma Shastras:

Vyāsa, 1.3.—‘The Vedic dharma can prevail only in that country over which the black deer roams naturally.’

Samvarta, 4.—‘That country where the black deer constantly roams at will is to be known as Dharma-deśa, where alone the duties of the twice-born can be performed.’

The reason why it says to live in lands that have this type of deer is because the spotted deer's hide is a very important material used in many Yajnas, and since foreign lands don't have this type of deer, then you can't conduct Yajnas there because you would have no hides.

But what if you introduce this species of deer to foreign lands or export or ship spotted deer hides to foreign lands?

This is prohibited by stating that the spotted deer should roam naturally in those lands; or in other words, lands in which the spotted deer is indigenous.

But why should I live in India even if I don't plan on doing Yajnas with deerskin?

Because there are other reasons like Indian soil being more sanctified and pure on account of Rishis having lived there, there being lots of Dvijas, Kshatriyas to protect Yajnas, kings who can defend Dharma, Brahmanas who can teach Dharma and the Vedas, and the holy rivers like the Ganga, Yamuna, and the Kaveri, etc.


All men on the earth may learn their respective duties from the Brāhmaṇas born in these countries. (20)

Thus, the Manusmriti says that Dvijas should not even leave India:

The twice-born people should seek to resort to these countries; the Śūdra may however, when distressed for a living, reside in any land.—(24).

And other Dharma Shastras even prescribe expiatory penances for travelling to foreign lands, implying that leaving India is actually a sin:

Baudhāyana, 1-30.—‘Āraṭṭa, Kāraskara, Puṇḍraka, Sauvīra, Baṅga, Kaliṅga, Prāsūna,—if one goes to those countries, he should perform the expiatory rite of either Punaḥstoma or Sarvapṛṣṭhā.

But I think there's good reason to think that these prohibitions of travel are purely for historic reasons, because people living in those lands were sinful, didn't follow Dharma, or were Mlecchas.

It's not recommended to live in Mleccha lands because the migrants and their descendants might actually become Mlecchas, as a Manusmriti commentator correctly points out:

The śūdra may go and live in another country, where there may be a chance for him to acquire wealth. But even so he should never live in a country where mlecchas form the majority of inhabitants; he should betake himself to a land fit for sacrifices; because if he lived in a country abounding in mlecchas it would be impossible for him to avoid their contact, in the course of moving, sitting, eating and so fourth; so that there would be the fear of his becoming a mleccha.

And we even see that 1st and 2nd generation Brahmins who migrate to Western countries become like Mlecchas by partaking in their culture of drinking, premarital sex, meat eating, marrying Mlecchas, etc.

  • "The śūdra may go and live in another country, where there may be a chance for him to acquire wealth." How can commentary on Manusmriti says this when Manusmriti clearly prohibits a Shudra from having money? Read Manu 10.129 Commented Jan 10, 2019 at 3:56
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    @NaveenKick That verse prohibits Shudras from hoarding wealth; as in storing it up over time to make a profit, which is something Vaishyas are supposed to do. Shudras can definitely acquire enough money to sustain themselves, and a little extra as security, and own a small home. But they can't own large plots of land, and have giant estates like Vaishyas can. But if a shudra can't even make enough to sustain himself, he can go overseas. This I have personally heard from the shishyas of the 33rd Parakala Matham Jeeyar.
    – Ikshvaku
    Commented Jan 10, 2019 at 4:14
  • Whose commentary you are referring to in your answer? Commented Jan 10, 2019 at 4:20
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    @Ikshvaku, part of one of the prayaschittas for overseas travel, is to have samudra-snanam , change of upaveetam, upon return to India, which is practical do-able in current day 2019.
    – ram
    Commented Jan 10, 2019 at 7:00
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    @Viper91 Yes, you're right, India has become land of Mlecchas, but that's mostly due to Muslim and British influence; aka appropriating Mleccha cultures.
    – Ikshvaku
    Commented Jan 13, 2019 at 2:10

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