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I watched a TV serial named "Devo ke Dev Mahadev" on channel "Life Ok". In that, they mentioned several stories of Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu always meditating upon each other and connected to each other at all times.

Is that true? If yes, what is the reason behind this? Can anybody enlighten me on this?

  • in my opinion, they meditate on each other just to show to everyone that both are one and the same God in two different forms! :) – Sai Sep 23 '14 at 16:12
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    @Sai, as you say that both are one and forms of same God, then why the God is meditate himself in different form? – Anurag Sep 24 '14 at 4:47
  • good question! I think this would require a chat, because this would be dealing with a series of questions such as: What is meditation? Why should God meditate? Why would God meditate himself in different forms? etc. Because the answer to this would be simply straying off this question :). We can discuss this in chat. – Sai Sep 24 '14 at 15:31
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    @Akshay Yes well said and thanks for clarifying! those who subscribe to advaita usually are of the belief in Oneness of God. Whereas those who subscribe to dvaita are of the belief in Multiplicity of God. And even among advaitists there are various categories, some who believe in vishistadvaita and some in achintyabhedabheda :). It is said "Infinite are the Leelas of God, infinite are His forms, Infinite are his powers and Infinite are the ways to reach Him". Dvaita and Advaita are not that different so long as there is sincere yearning in the devotee :) – Sai Sep 25 '14 at 15:10
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    Vishnu is the guru of Shiva, and Shiva is the guru of Vishnu. Hence they both meditate on their guru. – Swami Vishwananda Aug 17 '15 at 11:41
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I would try to correct a one misconception that Lord Vishnu meditates on Lord Shiva. No he doesn't, Lord Vishnu actually meditates on Lord Brahma.

It is a cyclic process, Lord Brahma meditates on Lord Shiva, Lord Shiva meditates on Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu meditates on Lord Brahma, and the cycle goes on.

Why this Cycle ? Brahma is a creator by nature, but before creation there is destruction, so he needs to understand the destruction, therefore he meditates on Lord Shiva, Vishnu is a Preserver, to Preserve he needs to understand the generation(creation), therefore he meditates on Lord Brahma , Shiva on the other-hand is a annihilator, to destroy he needs to understand Preservation, therefore he meditates on Lord Vishnu.

Why they need to understand their predecessor process ? Natural law, every process is the outcome of a process, and to understand a process, you need to know origin process. This also shows the cyclic and infinitum nature of any process's existence. This is a reason why science went way back to atoms, then to neutrons and still searching the cause of it(currently medalling with string theory).

To make everything more visible, I created this image which conveys it all. In the image, B = Brahma, V = Vishnu and S = Shiva.

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But is it not written in Puranas ? Yes its written, but in other way, puranas say :

Lord Vishnu worships Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva worships Lord Raam (Vishnu Avatar).

But meditation is different than worshiping. Lord Shiva cursed Lord Brahma that he would not be worshiped by anyone. Meditation is needed to understand something, you want to understand 'BIKE' meditate on it, you want to understand 'GOD' meditate on him. Worshiping is kind of give-take relationship between Purusha and Prakrati, the prakrati worships Purusha, to get something from it. Some worship Purusha to easily understand the way(the creation or the God), because meditating can sometime become tougher and time lengthy and needs higher consciousness.

About the Serial ?

TV serial "Devo ke Dev Mahadev" on channel "Life Ok", also told the same thing, that Vishnu actually meditates on Bhrama, It is in 8th October 2012, 234th episode.

The scene describes that Mata Parvati comes across Lord Shiva, who is meditating on Lord Vishnu at that time, she asks him the question why he meditating on Lord Vishnu, and their he answers about the cycle process.

  • Awesome knowledge Mr. K. Thanks for describing the process. Eventually i was missed that episode so didn't get around on it. Thanks! – Anurag Sep 26 '14 at 9:06
  • @Anurag, i will still link it, as I remember less, but you will also love what the serial has to say about it. – Mr. K Sep 26 '14 at 10:26
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    You should cite sources. Also, you shouldn't use block quotes unless you're quoting something. – Keshav Srinivasan Sep 26 '14 at 16:23
  • @KeshavSrinivasan, i'll remove blocks, secondly I wrote I will be adding a link, let me find one out. – Mr. K Sep 27 '14 at 12:52
  • @Anurag, added a link, do watch the episode. – Mr. K Sep 29 '14 at 6:08
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No one knows anything. The devotees of Vishnu say Lord Shiva meditates upon him, the devotees of Mata Shakti (Aadishakti) say he meditates on her. Different people have different opinions because no one wants to see their favourite deity look small in front of other but the truth is he doesn't meditate upon any other deity.

Who says meditation is only done upon somebody? No it's not. Some people who are atheistic also meditate. They don't meditate upon anyone. As you know there are three primary deities: Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. Do you know why Shiva is called 'Mahesh'? What does it mean? 'Maha' + 'Ish' means Mahan Ishwar or you could say 'sabse bade Ishwar', above whom there is nothing, beyond whom there is nothing.

There's an order of power. From all deities to King of deities Devraj Indra. If he couldn't handle anything they go to Lord Brahma and if he can't handle something, he refers them to Lord Vishnu and if the problem still seems uncontrollable, they are referred to the Supreme God; The one who is Mahadev (Devo ke Dev). Whom all worship, humans, deities, even demons and ghosts: Lord Shiva.

And the question why he meditates? Whom upon he meditates? Answer is NO ONE.

He doesn't need to meditate upon anyone. He is the Supreme Soul. Aadi Shakti is his powers he is the controller. He meditates to control Yuga. He meditates to create situations and meaningful examples for our life like Ram and Ravan, Maa Durga and Shumb Nishumb etc. Every situation what happened what we read in Puranas and Upanishads was created by him only to give us a hidden message. He meditates to control the whole Universe and that is from within only. Whatever we see is him only and whatever that doesn't exist is also in him only. When there was nothing, it was him only. And when there will be nothing, only he will be present there. He is anadi, he is anant.

All deities even Lord Vishnu also worships him in all his avatars. And that is not hidden, all know Rama was Shiva bhakth, Parashuram was Shiva bhakth and even Krishna got boon of sons from him. He is beyond time cycle and everything he never takes birth like other Lords and there is a misunderstanding that Hanuman was his avatar. No he wasn't. He was his Ansh avatar not him. Now many would say Krishna said he is the supreme one in Gita. If you see what Gita is all about what Lord Krishna was trying to tell, you will see it's "atma" which is the supreme soul. What can't be killed what does not take birth. Because we all atma's are a part of parmatma. He gave knowledge of atma, knowledge of Gita on supreme soul's behalf..because he himself is a part of him.

And yes now some of you must be thinking if Lord Shiva is the supreme power than why he needed Lord Vishnu to save his life from Bhasmasur I know some must be thinking. But no one knows about this incident exactly. The boon was given to him of burning anyone instantly if he puts his hand on that person's head. If Shiva wanted to kill him himself couldn't he kill by his trident (trishul) without letting him put his hand on his head? If Vishnu wanted to kill Bhasmasur couldn't he kill him by his disc (Sudarshan Chakra)? He could. They could. But still they didn't. Why? Have anyone of you try to understand why they didn't they kill him by their weapons? Why by dancing move? Let me tell you why. Because whatever happens has a hidden message behind it. And in that case this incident took place to show all of us an example that same boon (vardhan) what we ask for and try to misuse after getting can turn into curse (shrap) that was an example for all of us. We are very small creatures with too small minds to understand his leela.

I'm requesting to you all worship who you want to pray to Shiva, Krishna or Rama or anyone just don't try to show your favorite deity superior to Lord Shiva. Because your favorite deity themselves don't like it that you are insulting the one who they themselves worship. No matter which God you worship, you worship him only you can worship to yourself also because you are also a part of him. You are not distinct. It's written in Vedas: Shivoham (I am Shiva) Aham Bharmasami (mein hi param brahma hu).

  • You should cite some sources. – Paṇḍyā Sep 25 '18 at 16:00
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In Skanda Upanishad, we find the following verses:

शिवाय विष्णु रूपाय शिव रूपाय विष्णवे |
शिवस्य हृदयं विष्णुं विष्णोश्च हृदयं शिवः ||
यथा शिवमयो विष्णुरेवं विष्णुमयः शिवः |
यथाsन्तरम् न पश्यामि तथा में स्वस्तिरायुषि|
यथाsन्तरं न भेदा: स्यु: शिवराघवयोस्तथा||

Quoting the translation from here:

8-9. (I bow) to Shiva of the form of Vishnu and Vishnu who is Shiva; Vishnu is Shiva’s heart and Shiva, Vishnu’s. Just as Vishnu is full of Shiva, so is Shiva full of Vishnu. As I see no difference, I am well all my life.

Now, one always think upon what's in their hearts because that's very dear to them.

So, these verses might have inspired the serial makers in showing Shiva and Vishnu as always meditating upon each other.

(NOTE - Skanda Upanishad is one of the 108 Upnaishads and is a minor Upanishad. It is linked to the Krishna Yajurveda.)

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