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Gurus of many organisations across the globe nowadays initiate many individuals collectively in a hall by the same beeja mantra. Very often, these mantras seem constructed and so have no specific rishi, devata and chhanda.

So far as I know, this type of initiation is not approved by our scriptures. But so many are doing and so there must be some basis.

Could anyone provide the scriptural basis?

  • It is not allowed see this answer: hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/19911/4732 mass initiation not allowed – Rickross Jan 23 at 13:32
  • @Rickross thanks. excellent discussion. please answer this one. – commonman Jan 23 at 13:35
  • Okay I will later ... if ur Q is not marked as a duplicate.. – Rickross Jan 23 at 13:36
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Gurus of many organisations across the globe nowadays initiate many individuals collectively in a hall by the same beeja mantra

If this is the case then every person being "initiated" know what the other persons are initiated into. And, that is not right.

Because only the Guru and the disciple should know which is the initiated Mantra. So, this process is flawed by "Mantra PrakAsha Dosha" - which is that the Mantra you are initiated into is also known to others.

Gurum prakAshayed dhimAn mantram yatnen gopayet |
AprakAsha prakAshAbhyAm nasyatah sampadAyushi ||

The Guru must always be revealed by the wise, but the mantra must carefully be kept secret. By not doing these two acts - that is, by not revealing the Guru and by not concealing the mantra, decrease, respectively, [the disciple's] wealth and longevity.

Kularnava Tantram 11.88

Besides that, the Mantra should be spoken into the right or left ear as prescribed. So it is a kind of whisper into the ear and not a loud shout which anybody around can hear. Some scriptures recommend that at that time the eyes of the disciple should be tied with a piece of cloth.

From Rudra YAmala Tantram (quoted in Brihat TantrasAra):

Gurustu PrAngukhobhutva ShishyA Prachi Mukha Stithah |
TrivAram Dakshine Karne VAme chaiva TathA Sakrit ||
Viparitam Tato Geyam StreesudrAnancha VAmatah |

Guru should face the east and the disciple the west direction. Guru should then speak the mantra into disciple's right ear 3 times and the left ear 1 time. For Sudras and the women the process will be reversed.

So, technically this is not a DikshA at all and it does not have the approval of the Tantras.

Very often, these mantras seem constructed and so have no specific rishi, devata and chhanda.

In that case the Mantra is not even a Mantra so what one is doing with it should not be anybody's concern because such a transfer of Mantra does not really mean anything.

Actually Guru should mention the various limbs of the Mantra too during DikshA.

Tatah RishiAdisamyuktam Mantram Gururdakshina karne Trih SrAvayitvA VAma karne Sakrit SrAvayet.

Thereafter the Guru should speak the mantra, along with Rishi, Devata and other Nyasas, 3 times in the disciple's right ear and 1 time in the left (vAma karne Sakrit).

Vashishta SamhitA

Whenever the process of initiation is described in scriptures it's only about one Guru and one disciple and not many. So, it is a one-to-one process.

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