In an answer to the question

How were the Trimurthi born?

The following material is quoted: '

As Krishna says in the Shanti Parva of the Mahabharata, "The ancestors of civilization, and entities such as Shiva, were created by Me. They do not know of this because they are illusioned by My cosmic material energies."

the link given is broken. instead,



Note: Shrila Baladeva Vidyabhushana quotes the following verses from Mahabharata, where Krishna explains that He is the source of all living beings.

prajapatim ca rudram capy aham eva shrijami vai tau hi mam na vijanito mama maya-vimohitau

"The patriarchs, Shiva and others are created by Me, though they do not know that are created by Me, because they are deluded by My illusory energy."*

It is alleged to be from the Moksha Dharma Parva of the Mahabharata- where can it be found there?

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    What do you mean by a genuine quote? Commented Jan 26, 2019 at 16:19
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    By the way, the original word used is Rudra not Shiva. There is a big difference.
    – Pinakin
    Commented Jan 26, 2019 at 16:45
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    Actually its Rudra... Not Shiva... Commented Jan 26, 2019 at 17:17

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this alleged citation from the Mahabharata was made in a comment to the question

How were the Trimurthi born?

Actually the citation is from Varaha Purana, in the context of Vishnu explaining the power of his maya to the earth.



pages 295-298

  1. After listening to the actions to be performed in the six seasons, Earth again asked Lord Narayana.
  2. "You have explained the auspicious and sacred actions to be performed, that indeed gladden your mind.
  3. Knowing these from you, О Madhava, I have become free from stain like the moon in autumn.
  4. I am now eager to know another secret which you may be pleased to enlighten me about, namely.
  5. What is it that you speak of as my maya (illusory power); what is its nature, О Visnu.
  6. I wish to know this great secret, namely the meaning of Maya"
  7. Visnu, who is the very repository of maya, laughed a little at this, and then told Earth:
  8. "You ask this quite earnestly, but why do you ask this since you see it yourself ?
  9. But know this that even Rudra, Indra and Brahma have not known me fully even now; then how can you, О Earth, know my Maya ?
  10. Where the clouds shower rain, there water accumulates, but there are also places without any water. This is due to my maya.
  11. The moon wanes in one fortnight and waxes in the next, and does not appear at all on new moon day. This is really due to my maya
  12. In winter/the water in the well is warm, but in summer it is cool. This really is due to my maya.
  13. The sun sets in the west and rises in the east the next morning. This is due to my maya.
  14. The generative fluid is in the female and the semen is in the male. In the womb they combine to form a being. This is due to my maya.

  1. I create Brahma and Rudra and hold them. But due to the power of my may a they do not know it.

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