There was an episode where satyakAma jabala of unknown lineage was accepted as a disciple. Similarly, on the recent there happened another incident where King Prasenadi from the lineage of shAkhya was convinced by revered Gautam Buddha to accept his son as shAkhya only when the later was found to be conceived by woman of 4th class unknowingly. These two episodes are dealt in this article names The Buddha was every inch a Hindu

He predicted the coming of a future awakened leader like himself, the Maitreya (“the one practising friendship/charity”), and specified that he would be born in a Brahmin family. *When King Prasenadi discovered that his wife was not a Shakya princess but the daughter of the Shakya ruler by a maid-servant, he repudiated her and their son; but his friend the Buddha made him take them back.

Did he achieve this by saying that birth is unimportant, that “caste is bad” or that “caste doesn’t matter”, as the Ambedkarites claim? No, he reminded the king of the old view (then apparently in the process of being replaced with a stricter view) that caste was passed on exclusively in the paternal line. Among hybrids of horses and donkeys, the progeny of a horse stallion and a donkey mare whinnies, like its father, while the progeny of a donkey stallion and a horse mare brays, also like its father. So, in the oldest Upanishad, Satyakama Jabala is accepted by his Brahmin-only teacher because his father is deduced to be a Brahmin, regardless of his mother being a maid-servant. And similarly, King Prasenadi should accept his son as a Kshatriya, even though his mother was not a full-blooded Shakya Kshatriya.

So what this article is saying is progeny invariably derive its gotra from it's father lineage irrespective of the fact varNaSaMkara happened or not which was supported by Buddha.

Is this claim supported or deduced by scriptures? This question indirectly asking - what gotra to assign to the progeny born out of intermixing of classes?


In Gita,Arjuna says to Sri Krishna :

(1.38 1.39) O Janardana, although these people, whose hearts have become perverted by greed, do not see the evil arising from destroying the family and sin in hostility towards, friends, yet how can we who clearly see the evil arising from destroying the family remain unaware of (the need of) abstaining from this sin?

(1.40) From the ruin of the family are totally destroyed the traditional rites and duties of the family. When rites and duties are destroyed, vice overpowers the entire family also.

(1.41) O Krsna, when vice predominates, the women of the family become corrupt. O descendent of the Vrsnis, when women become corrupted, it results in the intermingling of castes. (1.42) And the intermingling in the family leads the ruiners of the family verily into hell. The forefathers of these fall down (into hell) because of being deprived of the offerings of rice-balls and water.

Bhagavan Sri Krishna does not say anything against this, which means He is of the same opinion (maunam sammatilakshanam).

He also Himself says that Varna-shakaras destoy the world:

•3.24 These worlds will be ruined if I do not perform action. And I shall become the agent of intermingling of castes, and shall be destroying these beings.

I think it means that the Varnasankaras are fallen and has no gotra. Otherwise, they would not have been deprived of the dharmik duties like pindadaana.

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    Silence doesn't always imply acceptance Sir... – Mr. Sigma. Feb 5 '19 at 12:22
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    Krishna do implies in BG 2.1-5 - "O Parth, it does not befit you to yield to this unmanliness. Give up such petty weakness of heart and arise, O vanquisher of enemies." ... I think Krishna meant Arjuna was involved in overthinking & was giving flabbergasted slippery slopping arguments. Neverthless, varNaShaMkar is devastating but I am not sure how it affects bloodline. Blood should remain same. – Mr. Sigma. Feb 5 '19 at 13:11
  • @Mr.Sigma., what do you mean by 'Blood should remain same'? – ram Feb 6 '19 at 4:55
  • @ram progeny although mixed will have blood of his father. – Mr. Sigma. Feb 6 '19 at 4:57
  • @Mr.Sigma. Sri Krishna does think Varnashankara is dangerous.Pl see my update: Gita 3/24 – user17294 Apr 6 '19 at 14:19

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