My questions are about all the supernatural weapons and things used.

If everything was oral tradition, I agree and respect that as well. Why isn't that available like Vedas and other things? You can forget about the events from Ramayan for a moment too as that was nearly 2.1 million years back, but what about Mahabharat which has technologies from few thousand years ago.

Some positive points, the remains of Idols found across India, Indonesia(Krishna Arjun), Thailand, Afghanistan, etc. The plastic surgery, cataract, etc. mentioned in the book Shusrut Samhita, etc.

However, regarding techonologies, please share your thoughts!

  • Is there any recorded knowledge for how to invoke or use Brahmastra or other DIVINE weapons used in Ramayana or Mahabharata or any other scripture, if not, why wasn't that all recorded or known or passed on?

  • I agree with Vimana Shastra, where it's written on how to make spacecrafts using what materials and what a pilot should do. But why isn't there a single human being making use of that book and creating something or understanding those things?

  • Why does no one have any knowledge regarding those weapons, or levitating in skies with human body, etc.? How to prove that Yudhistihir's Chariot was actually levitating one feet above the ground at all times until the Mahabharat War?

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    are nuclear misslie launch codes known to everyone, or only a select few army personnel that have undergone rigorous training and have gained trust of nation's safeguarders ? similarly, advanced mantras and shastras can still be learned by intense penance and gaining trust of Vedas' safeguarders – mar Jan 23 '20 at 1:18
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    You mean the use of supernatural weapons? As far as I know that knowledge is not there. Also, no other person in this current age or time has ever seen to be using a supernatural weapon. Maybe it is all just mythology. – Wikash_ Jan 23 '20 at 8:03
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    @Wikash_, nobody on this website has seen you in person. Maybe you're just a robot on the internet. – mar Jan 23 '20 at 22:25
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    @ram yes that is true. Then again you just also maybe an alogrithm. Also, my statements are based on facts so if I am a robot I am doing pretty good. – Wikash_ Jan 23 '20 at 22:46
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    @Wikash_, you're not using facts. you're talking gibberish now. – mar Jan 25 '20 at 0:30

The questions are

  • Is there any recorded knowledge for how to incite or use Brahmastra or its likes in Mahabharat or any other scripture, if not, why wasn't that all recorded or known or passed on?

  • Why isn't that available like Vedas and other things?

  • Why does no one have any knowledge regarding those weapons, or transcending in skies with human body, etc.?

  • I agree with Vimana Shastra, where it's written on how to make spacecrafts using what materials and what a pilot should do. But why isn't there a single human being making use of that book and creating something or understanding those things? Or is there anyone?

Good questions indeed.

Let me start with 2nd point first

  1. The Veda, to be precise Rig, Yaju and Sama ( I am not taking Atharva into consideration into the core Veda Category) Vedas, contain SPIRITUAL matters, occasionally mentioning some historical facts like Daśarājñá yuddhá, about Manu, Bharata, etc.

It does not mean to say that The Veda do not refer to any weapons. They do refer to Vajra of Indra, Parasu of Varuna, etc. As the Veda contain multi-layered meanings, these weapons can be interpreted in different ways.

The same Vajra was mentioned in Ramayana and Mahabharata also.

  1. The DIVINE weapons mentioned in Ramayana or Mahabhrata were not Nuclear as many would like to believe. They are of different technology, which was not described in those EPICs.

Further, their usage also mentioned in different ways by different people.

a) Those DIVINE weapons were used either through an arrow made of Iron or Kusa grass, uttering some mantra.

  • Sri Rama used brahmAstra against a crow, the son of Indra, through a blade of grass

  • Aswatthama used brahmashira, through a blade of grass, against the descendants of Pandavas, which killed the unborn baby in the womb of Uttara.

b) Indrajit used brahmastra in 2 ways

  • to catch hold of Sri Hanuman, who was found invincible (Sundara kanda)

  • to eliminate 67 crores of vanaras in a single day

सप्तषष्टिर्हताः कोट्यो वानराणां तरस्विनाम् | अह्नः पञ्चमशेषेण वल्लभेन स्वयम्भुवः || (Yuddha Kanda 74 Sarga 12 Sloka)

Sixty seven crores of powerful monkeys were struck down by the cherished missile of Brahma, the self-born creator, in the fifth and last period of the day.

In all cases, if we observe closely, we will find that except the targetted people no one else got affected due to impact of that DIVINE weapon.

For example, when Indrajit used the brahmAstra, it affected Vanaras only, but not Rakshasas, who were also present in the war field.

Coming to the aspect of non-availability of those DIVINE weapons now, we have to remember that even in that era also, only a handful of few were described to be in possession of those weapons, but not all.

So to acquire those DIVINE weapons, rigorous training, practice, etc are needed. When those qualities were not found in subsequent generations, they might have lost to the them.

Losing of knowledge in any field occurs not only in one field alone, but in many fields.

One accomplished Guru in Gayatri Mantra said once (Sri Paakalapati Guruvu - Telugu) that mere keeping of hands in a form and touching some parts of body and reciting mantra, does not assure Siddhi in Gayatri mantra.

It needs something else, which will be made known to the eligible aspirants by the NATURE/GOD directly, but not to all.

It is confidential knowledge.

That was why, he added, not many people were able to get the Siddhi in that Mantra.

Same is the case with DIVINE weapons. Only the eligible ones will get the knowledge, but not by everyone.

Who is eligible, will be decided by the God alone.


Sorry to burst your bubble, the simple answer is there was no such technology or knowledge at the time.

Brahmāstra, Vāruṇāstra and Āgneyāstra are all mythical weapons that sprung from the imagination of authors of the two epics and Purāṇas.

Here's what H. D. Sankalia writes in Ramayana - Myth or Reality?:

Divine Weapons

Of the things mentioned by me just consider how Rama was made to acquire divine weapons in the Balakanda. The normal weapons of a warrior anywhere in the world were the bow and arrow for a long distance fight. For the hand-to-hand fight, there was either the gada (mace) or the shield and sword.

The Rakshasas also used these weapons, though at times they might uproot a tree, or pick up a large boulder, even a living rock and hurl it against the enemy.

The Vanaras never used the bow and arrow, sword and shield, or any other made weapons. They are invariably found to employ trees, rocks and small tops of hillocks.

Thus distinction made by the author of the Ramayana not only helps us to identify or categorize the three main participants in the epic, but when we further examine the terms used for describing the weapons, the arrows, shields, etc. of Rama, Lakshmana and the Rakshasas, we find that they are all made of iron. Though we cannot visualize the exact form of the weapons to date them more precisely, we can definitely say that they are not very old. Further, they all belong to the Iron Age and the earliest date of this would be about 800 B.C. Chronological study of the word 'astra' also shows that this word is not very old and its meaning as a magical weapon or a weapon to be used with the help of different kinds of mantras, so that one could create different kinds of effects—set ablaze a city or habitation, produce rain and storm—is comparatively a very late concept in Sanskrit literature. Historically, it may be said that astras, even if they existed, were not employed by the rank and file of the army. Their use was very rare and confined to only a few individuals, who had obtained divine powers. Ramayana itself gives an interesting description of the origin of these magical weapons, and the fact that this description occurs in the Balakanda would go to prove their late origin.

Further the introduction of astra-concept in the epics and Puranas seems to have taken place at a time when mythological descriptions began to outgrow small historical events, whereas these seem to have had no effect on the actual course of Indian history. For had the use of astras been common, we would not have been worsted in any war against a foreign invader. Therefore it is my considered view that astras are mythical.

In History of India, Vol. I, James Talboys Wheeler makes similar arguments:




In the first place, it may be remarked that the war is said to have lasted eighteen days; and though it was probably included within a much more restricted period, yet still for the present the term of eighteen days may be accepted. The armies, however, which were engaged on either side, are said to have included such vast numbers of forces that the account may be safely rejected as altogether incredible. Princes from the remotest quarters of India, the mythical ancestors of the Rajas who reigned during the period when the modern version of the Mahabharata appears to have been composed, are said to have ranged themselves either on the side of the Kauravas, or on that of the Pandavas, accompanied by mighty hosts to which even the fabled armies of Semiramis and Xerxes sink into insignificance. Indeed the number of forces said to have been engaged on this memorable occasion far exceed all ordinary calculation, consisting of millions, billions, trillions, and even more extravagant enumerations; so that if all the present inhabitants of the earth were assumed to be fit to carry arms, and were multiplied a thousand times over, they would still fall very far short of the number of men who are said to have fought to the death on the plain of Kurukshetra. Even the elephants and chariots are counted by lakhs and crores, or, in other words, by hundreds of thousands and tens of millions.

The details of this primitive war have been in like manner exaggerated beyond all credibility. The leading warriors, whilst fighting with all the bloodthirsty desperation of savages, and burning with all the frenzied wrath of demons, are endowed with superhuman strength and skill which raise them to the rank of demigods. Magical weapons are employed which are said to have been received from the gods, but which could only have existed in the wild imaginations of Brahmanical bards who were totally ignorant of the practice of war. Chariots are said to have been broken in pieces, or burnt to ashes, by the discharge of a single arrow. Elephants are felled to the earth and slaughtered by single-handed warriors. Armies are subdued and slain by the arrows of individual heroes.

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