The core of Hinduism is Vedas. One can be regarded as Hindu only when he or she accepts Vedas.

Vedas come under the category of Agama pramana or Shabdha pramana.

Before it comes
1. Pratyaksha or Empirical and
2. Anumana or Logical proofs

Only when these two fail to give us knowledge the Agama pramana becomes relevant.

On top of this the entire of proof of Vedas rests upon it being Apourusheya.

So how do we prove Veda Apourusheyathva and then establish Veda pramanya?

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    Just wondering what makes you think that Sabda Pramana is inferior to Pratyaksha or Anumana May 29, 2020 at 10:01
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    Not necessarily. Someone (book or person) of authority also matters. You believe black holes exist because some figure of authority have said it. You haven't verified it using your senses (pratyaksha). And if you say inference (anumana) then also you are referring to work of a trustworthy source (sabda) May 29, 2020 at 10:08
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    what? how do you believe in a scientist using inference ? You believe in him on back of his awards, his pedigree, praises from peer group etc. So that is sabda pramana May 29, 2020 at 10:53
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    You need to establish frame of reference with opposite party prior to debate. I think Adi Shankaracharya also insisted on having a reference point before debating. Otherwise there can be no end to logic/counter logic. May 29, 2020 at 11:10
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    I don't know what you mean by opposite framework. May 29, 2020 at 11:47

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Evidence or pramAna is required only when one wishes to prove something tangible, but not with respect to intangible issue.

Many intangible issues like LOVE, HATRED, JOY, JEALOUSY, etc, fall into the domain of ABSTRACT things. Their existence can be experienced but cannot be proved.

SPIRITUALITY is also an ABSTRACT thing. It can only be experienced.

Basically, the Veda talks about pure SPIRITUAL concepts, in an esoteric manner and is called Apaurusheya.

Apaurusheya does not indicate that they were not composed by humans. The Veda did come out from the mouth of a humans, albeit sages, like Atri, Viswamitra, Vasistha, etc.

However, the source of the Veda was is SELF REALISATION, a state of BLISS and it is DIVINE.

Sages like Atri, Viswamitra, Vasistha, etc, did not compose the mantras of the Veda, out of their thinking or scholarly wisdom.

Those mantras emanated out of SELF REALISATION, which is beyond human's comprehension. Those sages had spread that DIVINE wisdom to mankind in the form of mantras.