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Why do the evil-doers get continuously hurled into demoniac wombs by the Lord without ever attaining God, if they are puppeted by the Lord who resides in their hearts?

Key points:

  • It is God who punishes the evil-doers
  • The (unrepentant) evil-doers will never attain liberation
  • It is God who is the puppeteer of all living beings

From BG 16.19-20:

These cruel haters, the worst among men in the world, — I hurl all these evil-doers for ever into the wombs of demons only. Entering into demoniacal wombs and deluded birth after birth, not attaining Me, they thus fall, O Arjuna, into a condition still lower than that!

From BG 18.61:

The Lord dwells in the hearts of all beings, O Arjuna, causing all beings, by His illusive power, to revolve as if mounted on a machine!

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  • BG 16 19-20 is rejected by both advaitic and visista advaitic acharyas as they all agree that eventually every one is eligible for moksha.. they consider this statements as apparrent statement just a warning from god to human from wrong doing.. otherwise evil people will do more evil if he is saying clearly that evilest people are eleigible for moksha.. but only SriMadvacharya accepts this statement.. say that some jivas will suffer permenanat andhamas..
    – Prasanna R
    Sep 22, 2020 at 15:30
  • @PrasannaR - no verse in BG is rejected by any acharya. They need to be understood correctly, like this answer. ruben, your question too also has a previous answers here, and here, and here
    – mar
    Sep 22, 2020 at 15:41
  • Does this answer your question? Conflicting idea about Karma in Bhagavad Gita?
    – mar
    Sep 22, 2020 at 15:42
  • you are not clear on your answers you are only saying the fact nature of seed.. if the nature of the seed is evil they will never attain god this is not answered properly there is no sankaracharyas quotation in the above answers @Ram just post it if you have
    – Prasanna R
    Sep 22, 2020 at 15:46
  • @ram No. That question does not specify the Bhagavad Gita verses and is ambiguous. Here I have quoted specific Bhagavad Gita verses stating that it is God who punishes the worst of men and they will never attain liberation, yet the other verse states that it is God who is the puppeteer of all living beings.
    – ruben2020
    Sep 22, 2020 at 15:47

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Bhagavata 7.1.8

jaya-kāle tu sattvasya
devarṣīn rajaso 'surān
tamaso yakṣa-rakṣāṁsi
tat-kālānuguṇo 'bhajat

"When the quality of goodness is prominent, the sages and demigods flourish with the help of that quality, with which they are infused and surcharged by the Supreme Lord. Similarly, when the mode of passion is prominent the demons flourish, and when ignorance is prominent the Yakṣas and Rākṣasas flourish. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is present in everyone’s heart, fostering the reactions of sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa."

Bhagavad-gītā (14.11-13):

sarva-dvāreṣu dehe ’smin
 prakāśa upajāyate
jñānaṁ yadā tadā vidyād
 vivṛddhaṁ sattvam ity uta

lobhaḥ pravṛttir ārambhaḥ
 karmaṇām aśamaḥ spṛhā
rajasy etāni jāyante
 vivṛddhe bharatarṣabha

aprakāśo ’pravṛttiś ca
 pramādo moha eva ca
tamasy etāni jāyante
 vivṛddhe kuru-nandana

“The manifestations of the modes of goodness can be experienced when all the gates of the body are illumined by knowledge."

“O chief of the Bhāratas, when there is an increase in the mode of passion, the symptoms of great attachment, uncontrollable desire, hankering, and intense endeavor develop."

“O son of Kuru, when there is an increase in the mode of ignorance, madness, illusion, inertia and darkness are manifested.”

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is present in everyone’s heart, simply gives the results of the increase in the various qualities, but He is impartial. He supervises victory and loss, but He does not take part in them.

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    He does not take part in them? Then how do you explain BG 18.61? What does it mean when we say that God is the puppeteer of all living beings?
    – ruben2020
    Sep 26, 2020 at 5:39
  • @ruben2020 - don't go by English translations of a Sanskrit text.
    – mar
    Jan 2, 2021 at 6:00

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