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In the process of completing the contract for developing a software for a renowned astrologer, I came across a book of practical astrology by Samael Aun Weor.

It seems this South American wasn’t astrologer by any stretch but a spiritualist having written over 60 books including some medicine, occult, future predictions about China-Australia love(pun intended) and friendly relations of USA and Russia. His Pistochia Bible interpretation has ZERO compliance with today’s understanding of Bible. In some forums on Reddit, he doesn’t seem to be well appreciated either. However I haven’t found him in violation with spiritual principles of the East. Like caring for life and full respect for all that nature creates to live in harmony. Okay so that was author’s quick introduction of Samael Aun Weor which intrigued me.

Now here’s picture of one of the page from this book of astrology which gave me goosebumps and need to know your all opinions. enter image description here

As evident planet rulers for week days have serious mismatch with what order of week days that eastern or western astrology in last 1500 or 2000 years has taught us. Per Samael, order of week days we follow as derived from hourly method is quite erroneous.

Here’s another couple pages picture enter image description here

Ancient sages consider the whole day as a perfect circle which is cross sectioned in 4 different segments. Each segment (1/4th of each day) was governed by 4 out of 7 planets. Following is the planetary representation in case you don’t understand symbols: enter image description here This will allow us to divide the whole day in two parts day / night and let us know that which planet is dominant at which time in the space. Take Earth as a reference and calculate the astronomical distance of each planet consider that our solar system in irregularly round, the exact order of distance from the earth would be as follows:

MOON – 38,4400 KM MERCURY-107.73 MILLION KM VENUS-177.93 MILLION KM SUN – 149.04 MILLION KM MARS-64.797 MILLION KM JUPITER – 766.8 MILLION KM SATURN – 1.433 BILLION KM Now, the planet considered first in the order are called as Endo-planets (Earth to Sun) and Mars to Saturn are Exoplanets as it is away from the sun then the Earth. Moreover, Sun, Mercury, moon and Venus as seen in astrological charts forming often combination (Yuti) in the same house and exoplanets use to form aspects in relation with sun frequently. This understanding reveals that Endo-planets has a natural ability to cast a shadow on the earth as they are in-between Sun and the Earth, whereas exoplanets like Mars, Jupiter and Saturn has an ability natural ability to protect earth from galaxy debris.
As per Practical Astrology by Samael Aun Weor following is the correct order or weekdays:

Order of Week days (Practical Astrology)    => Planet represented
Monday      => Moon
Wednesday   => Mercury
Friday      => Venus
Sunday      => Sun
Tuesday     => Mars
Thursday    => Jupiter
Saturday    => Saturn

After knowing this I am researching for the original order of Weekdays (Vāsara/Vaar) as per Vedic/Hindu calendar. But unable to find any reliable source.

Most of the source that I am stating here from the Internet are as follows but could not find any ancient literature source to support the above hypothesis.

As per Wikipedia (which may be biased) the concept of weekdays was introduced by Christian Catholic and that is borrowed by Hindus and this was the (Lunar) calendar that was being used from Vikramaditya era around 57 BCE. Is this true? If not, then what is the original weekdays order as per Hindu traditions? If anyone can point me to any reliable literature (hopefully not affected by visiting missionaries) regarding this that could be a great help.

One theory is that Weekday names and order was introduced by Varāhamihir (who was in Vikramaditya’s era and a member of his court) in India and possibly he agreed to put in Indian literature based on trusting research from visiting Christian Catholic missionaries.. I deduce this based on information from Wikipedia about active period of varahmihir and aryhabhatt and arrival period of Christian catholics in India. This could be done in innocence by Varahmihir or Aryabhatt as India was more attuned to following 15 or 30 Moon days calendar. And this change would have had least impact. Only in last 200-300 years we are extensively using weekdays in daily lives (including fasting etc).

Again, I don’t know if this is correct or not. All help regarding this is greatly appreciated.

I quote from Wikipedia regarding seven days week under Hindu Astrology:

It was only after the transmission of Hellenistic astrology that theorder of planets in India was fixed in that of the seven-day week.

The Romaka Siddhanta ("Doctrine of the Romans") and the Paulisa Siddhanta were two works of Western origin which influenced Varahamihira's thought.

But I feel Varāhamihir is influenced by Vedāṅga Jyotiṣa, or Jyotiṣavedāṅga (which is said to have come into existence in 700-600 BCE as per Wiki) and the said Romaka Siddhanta ("Doctrine of the Romans") is based on Vedāṅga Jyotiṣa, or Jyotiṣavedāṅga. I may be wrong here, but this is my feeling. And if I am wrong please correct me.

If we look further in past there is Maharshi Bhrigu (who is believed to be a Saptarishi) who is said to have compiled Bhrigu Samhita which again is said to be first ever Astrological compilations in probably Dvapara Yug, that is before Kali Yug. But at that time was there any concept of week? If Yes, then what was the order of weekdays names?

Currently the theory propounded regarding the sequence/order of weekdays is that by arranging the 7 astrological planets in the order of their speed of revolution, relative to earth gives us the sequence/order of weekdays.

Some URLs for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Var%C4%81hamihira

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hora_Sara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_astrology

https://mythandastrology.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/why-monday-after-sunday/

This possibly comes from Dr Rudolf Steiner, who has a sequence of: Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn as we return from death in this life towards a new birth. The sequence matches Samael Aun Weor's days of the week.

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    Trying to do Vedic astrology (Jyotisha) without duly studying Vedas after upanayana and following all rituals is not recommended because it has potential to do much more harm than good because a tiny error in software can mislead millions who use the software. Jyotisha shastra has to be learned under tutelage of a traditional pandit who is not in the astrology 'business'.
    – ram
    Commented Dec 9, 2020 at 5:55
  • I am not trying to lean Jyotisha and practice it. What I am trying to understand is, as to how things are considered Jyotisha so that it gives me a better perspective of subject matter and so I will able to design the UI of solution for my client which is more usable and appealing. Just like a casual reader the week days order spiked my attention and I want to know as why western week days order and our Indian week days order are ditto when actually they should be different. Commented Dec 11, 2020 at 5:30
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    Westerners are wrong, Hindu Jyotish has concept of Panchang, panchang.astrosage.com/panchang/?language=en which has Vaar(Day), Tithi(date),nakshatra(27 constellations), Karana and Yoga. Order of weekday is correct and based upon planetary properties and exaltation, not based on modern random astronomical calculations, Ancient Sages meditated not created material telescopes.For ex. 1st day is Sun and represents king and exalts in 1st house, 2nd day is the Moon and represents queen that exalts in 2nd house and means mind, 3rd day is Mars and represents hands in 3rd house etc.
    – user22317
    Commented Dec 11, 2020 at 12:55
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    You can't just google or read some book and hope to comprehend Apara Vedic knowledge like Jyotisha, it has to be learned under a competent guru.
    – user22317
    Commented Dec 11, 2020 at 13:03
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    If could include in what way the Days are considered incorrect, and also the basis for suggesting adjustments to the ordering of the Names of the Days, which are of Egyptian, Babylonian, Grecian, Latin, Germanic, & Norse origins, could be helpful. Thank you :)
    – M H
    Commented Dec 11, 2020 at 14:29

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I have three points proving 'Samael Aun Weor' as wrong.

  1. Weekdays as we follow are not arranged in the cosmos as per their distance from the Earth.
  2. If present arrangement is false then our Vedic Astrological calculations would be wrong which are not wrong ever.
  3. One important point that our Puranas say is- 'when presiding powers of weekdays were allotted, the envious and egoistic 'Shukracharaya' wanted him to be before the Dev Guru Brahaspati the Jupiter (Thursday). But he was allotted the day just after Thursday as a Friday (Shukravaar) as he is also the Guru of Asurs (Demons) and to keep his Ego cool.

So if Thursday - Friday arrangement is right, so are all the present week days.

Roman Catholic Church has copied week days arrangement from Indian Vedic system.

In Indian Vedic system the week starts from Monday.

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Doesn't look like importance of Guru disciple system has much importance these days. Mother nature has given internet and took away that responsibility in her own hands literally. As evident system is already on decline after arrival of satyug aquarius age in 1960s. Remember Guru is considered as Mother and father both but Mother is first Guru. And when mother decides to take role of Guru, she will decide how to impart knowledge. Mother nature is ultimate Guru by way of deploying law of karma she is teaching to humanity moment by moment how to live our lives. Not to be disrespectful to Guru disciple system but reality is next 1000 years (before big reset) will be relationship between mother and child. Every human will look within to awaken his own guru by direct help from mother nature (at personal front, it is individuals kundalini) as he she learns to navigate without competent guru (in physical form). And jyotish Vidya Will not remain unaffected by this. Some interesting excerpts from book of vimalananda (Aghora series) .. jyotish Vidya mathematically can only be 50% correct. Rest 50% perfection comes from relationship between practicing jyotish and his or her diety. Why ? Because continuous friction between will power and fate. World is running because of this friction between fate and will power. When sincere selfless jyotish working only for interest of others with full trust on diety declares something without iota of ego or self praise, he or she will be honored. Anyone with ballooned ego with over confident on his or her so called mathematics will not be honored. So 50% from math and rest 50% from devotion and following your sadhana for your deity. As far as order of planets are considered, moon is first because moon is mind and moon is mother. Moon didn't separate from us. We separated from her. And still she circles us like a good mother always keeps checking on her children. Similarly sun is in center because it's a center where super ego resides .. minimum requirement to be soul. Our personal ego is our gravity holding us into the body. Without this individual body dies in physical form as soul will go to higher realms of gravity. Only way to die and still remain in body is by way of divine laws of karmas where diety allows individual to remain in body to play out game of karma. This is very difficult to stay ibody after merger of kundalini and Shiva in sahasrar chakra. Shani (Saturn) is last in order is agreeable in all religions. So it is quite clear that OP is making sense. Will read more about it and come back. But saying that you can't learn without physical competent Guru is not going to hold up for rest of 1000 years as mother nature is fully taking charge and internet is ultimate truth for that. Teaching humanity how to utilize jyothish principles for betterment out of compassion for others without bloating ego will be key for this millennium.

Citations:- 1. Invention of internet. Nother source of all knowledge for entire humanity regardless of any background. 2. Aghora series from dr. Robert svoboda/vimalananda 3. Practical astrology by Samael Aun Weird. 4. NASA website with information on planetary rotation speed and for distance between planets.

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