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Here ओशो-राम-राज्य-कैसा-था Osho is claiming that there was slavery in the Rama's time and women were bought and sold. Are there any verses that mention the same or any proof that there was slavery during Ram Rajya.

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  • Does this answer your question? What is Rama Rajya? – Archit Jan 17 at 5:05
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    @Archit NO! I just asked if there was any slavery in Treta yuga, since slavery was present during the times of Mahabharat. – dark_prince Jan 17 at 6:46
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    It was a common practice acoss the entire ancient world. Read Manu Smriti. The Jewish Talmud also says how to treat slave girls. The morals, ethics, and practices of the ancient time do not justify or condone practices of today. – Swami Vishwananda Jan 18 at 4:49
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    @SwamiVishwananda the link that i referenced has very different viewpoints from my own. I'm not condoning any practices, i simply asked for my knowledge. – dark_prince Jan 18 at 13:52
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If you consider gifting people to brāhmaṇas as if they were one's property, as slavery, then both Rāma and Bharata engaged in slavery.

In Vālmīki Rāmāyaṇa (Ayodhyā kāṇḍa), Rāma instructs Lakṣmaṇa to gift slave-girls (dāsī's) to a brāhmaṇa:

kausalyām ca yāaśīrbhir bhaktaḥ paryupatiṣṭhati |
ācāryaḥ taittirīyāṇām abhirūpaḥ ca vedavit || 2-32-15

tasya yānam ca dāsīḥ ca saumitre sampradāpaya |
kauśeyāni ca vastrāṇi yāvat tuṣyati sa dvijaḥ || 2-32-16

15-16. saumitre = Oh; lakshmana! yaH = which brahmana; taithiriiyaNaam = studying Taittiriya ( a schoolf yajurveda); aachaaryaH = a preceptor; abhiruupashcha = a man of conformity; vedavit = a knower of Vedas; paryupatishhTati = seving; kausalyaam = Kausalya; bhaktaH = with his blessing; tasya = to him; sampradaapaya = in duly gifted; yaanamcha = conveyance; daasiishcha = servant-maids slave-girls; kaushayaani vastraaNicha = silken clothes; yaavat = till; saH dvijaH = that brahmana; tushhyati = gets satisfied.

Oh, Lakshmana! Which brahman is studying Taittiriya (a school of yajurveda), a preceptor, a man of conformity; a knower of Vedas, serving Kausalya with his devotion and blessing, to him see that he is duly gifted conveyance, servant maids slave-girls and silken clothing till he gets satisfied.

Bharata also donates male and female slaves (dāsī dāsam ca) to brāhmaṇas:

2. On the occasion of Shraddha rites, Bharata gave precious stones, money, a lot of cooked rice, very valuable clothes and various other kinds of presents to Brahmans.


bāstikam bahu śuklam ca gāḥ ca api śataśaḥ tathā |
dāsī dāsam ca yānam ca veśmāni sumahānti ca || 2-77-3
brāhmaṇebhyo dadau putraḥ rājñaḥ tasya aurdhvadaihikam |

tasya = in that; ourdhvadehikam = ceremony performed in honor of the dead; raajN^aH = king; putraH = Bharata the son of Dasaratha; dadou = gave; bahu = many; shuklam = white; baastikam = multitudes of goats; tathaa = and; shatashaH = hundreds of ; gaashchaapi = cows; daasii daasamcha = servants and servant maids female and male slaves; yaanaamcha = vehicles; sumahaanti = and very big; veshmaanicha = houses; braahmaNebhyaH = to brahmans.

3. In that ceremony performed in honor of the dead king, Bharata the son of Dasaratha gave multitudes of white goats, hundreds of cows, servants and servant maids female and male slaves, vehicles and very big houses to Brahmans.

Note the difference between the terms 'dāsa/dāsī' (slaves) and 'preṣya/bhṛta' (servants who work for wages) as used in Rāmāyaṇa itself. One cannot simply give away hired servants/maids to anyone they like because they do not own them. Also, unlike servants, slaves cannot afford to get angry with their owners.

  1. प्रेष्य (preṣya) = servant

    saṃgrāmātpunarāgamya kuṅjareṇa rathena vā || 2-2-37
    paurān svajanavannityam kuśalaṃ paripṛcchati |

    putreṣvagniṣu dāreṣu preṣyaśiṣyagaṇeṣu ca || 2-2-38
    nikhilenānupūrvyācca pitā putrānivaurasān |

    37-38. punaH aagatya = After returning; sangraamaat = from battle; kuN^jareNa = on elephant; rathena vaa = or chariot; paripR^ichchhati = inquires; kushalam = well being of; pauraan = citizens; svajanavat = like relatives; pitaa = father; aurasaan putraaniva = like to their hereditary sons; putreshhu = about sons; agnishhu = about the fire; daareshhu = about the wives; preshhya sishhyagaNeshhu cha = about the servants and the disciples; nityam = always; nikhilena = completely; anupuurvyaachcha = and as per due order.

    After returning from battle, Rama goes to citizens on an elephant or a chariot and inquires about their well being as though they were his own kinsmen, like a father does to his sons. He asks about their wives and children, about the sacred fires, about their servants and students, always completely as per the due order.

  2. भृत (bhṛta) = attendant or servant

    भृतक (bhṛtaka) = hired or paid

    kāla atikramaṇe hy eva bhakta vetanayor bhṛtāḥ |
    bhartuḥ kupyanti duṣyanti so anarthaḥ sumahān smṛtaḥ || 2-100-33

    33. kaalaatikramaNaat = (when) there is delay; bhaktavetanayoH = in giving bread and wages; bhR^itaaH = the servants; kupyanti = become incensed; bhartuH = against their master; duSyanti = and become corrupt; saH = (and) that; smR^itaaH = is said to be; sumahaan = a great; anarthaH = unfortunate occurrence.

    When there is delay in giving bread and wages, the servants become incensed against their master and become corrupt; and that is said to be a great unfortunate occurrence.

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  • why did you write "If you consider..". Isn't this the accepted definition of slavery. – dark_prince Jan 18 at 3:45
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    This is not Rama Rajya. This is Dasharatha Rajya. In it whether Rama Bharata engaged or not in slavery is immaterial. – Archit Jan 18 at 3:50
  • @Archit i don't think Rama abolished what was present during Dasharatha times. – dark_prince Jan 18 at 3:55
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    @dark_prince We need evidence to support that, which is not there in Valmiki. Though dasa dasi doesn’t mean slavery as commonly understood it means a person who serves. I have no backing therefore I won’t comment on that aspect. – Archit Jan 18 at 5:12
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    //why did you write "If you consider.."// - Manu 4.138 😉 such language is necessary to survive on this site... @dark_prince – sv. Jan 18 at 15:42

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