When I write this, is it the mind that is making me write this, or the Self? Is the mind always consciously achieved? Is the self never perceived consciously? Was the true Arjun (the Self) listening to Krishna's words or was it the mind that thought it was Arjun? Was Krishna (the Self) talking, or was it the mind that understood it was not the Self?

For any answerer, are you (the Self) answering, or is the mind thinking and answering?

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    Self means soul, the one that is making you write this is mind. And not soul Mar 23, 2021 at 10:43
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    You are you and the body is the chariot. Buddhi is the charioteer who control the manas or the reins. Your indriyas are the horses. So let’s say when you wrote this, you wrote it but you ordered your buddhi (charioteer) to give effect to writing this question by thinking and taking necessary action, who via the reins (manas) signalled to the horses (karmendriyan) to take the body or in this case your fingers (chariot) a specific direction. So you via the manas controlled the karmendriyan to make the body write this question. Sorry it was little confusing.
    – Adiyarkku
    Mar 23, 2021 at 10:47
  • @Archit But, according to the Advaita, isn't you (i.e. the Self) the nirgun, nirakara Bhramah, which both the Gita and the Advaita say is actionless? How can I (the Self) direct the budhee when the Self is actionless?
    – Debbie
    Mar 23, 2021 at 10:55
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    The one who asked this question is the drop of infinite immortal Atman, who thinks its a limited bodysuit made of 5 elements under the ego of Maya and given name user758469 or Mr. X in material world by temporary society till body's death or Self-realization.
    – user22687
    Mar 23, 2021 at 12:16
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    Yes, Atman is same in all, just like water from any water source has same formula H2O, but only clean distilled water is fit for drinking, not ocean or muddy water, similarly only yogis know themselves as Atman, not common others who identify 'I' as material body, while Sadhakas are in the process. Spirit is same in all and its study and realization is Spirituality.
    – user22687
    Mar 23, 2021 at 17:16