So the idea that illness and disease have psychological causes is part of the more New Age alternative treatments in the west.

This is for sure found in ancient Indian texts, I think it's spelled out plainly in Yog Vashisht, for example. Vashisht tells Ram as much.

One lady L. Hay, she died some years ago, published a small booklet decades back with illnesses and ailments and then the psychological causes of each, here is her list :


So if you click on "back pain" or "stomach-ache" or whatever, it will tell you why you might have it.

I was told this list was directly plagiarized from some kind of Hindu teachings, same as what Eckhart Tolle did to sell books too. They just take things from Hinduism and modernize them, then re-package them to sell in the west as their own original thoughts. (Um, no. Plz have a seat.) I'm not a huge Osho fan but at least he credited the Tantras for the things he taught. He talked about the Tantras extensively, he didn't pretend he came up with that stuff himself.

This lady L. Hay had studied with Indian gurus before becoming an author. She made bank on her multiple books, of stolen info, basically. So gross.

Does anyone know if there are any particular samhitas or such where she took this from ? Any religious writings of Hinduism where she lifted these ? (Without giving credit, of course. Grrr)

I'm wondering where she got her info. Thx :)

Also plz excuse the recent posting of several questions. Stuff I've wondered about for a long time but hadn't found answers online thus far.

Also, I'm not affiliated with this author or the site I linked in any way. A long time ago I came across her list and looked up some minor physical stuff I had like stress headaches and things like that. I was surprised at the accuracy of the causes.

Also plz delete or close this question if not allowed on here. Thx !

  • You need to enunciate a specific question. A link is not acceptable. If you want to know a history of Indian medicine and their link to causes, See A History of Indian Philosophy Vol 2, Chapter XIII by Surendranath Dasgupta. Available online here - wisdomlib.org/hinduism Jul 9, 2022 at 15:04

1 Answer 1

They just take things from Hinduism and modernize them, then re-package them to sell in the west as their own original thoughts.

Indeed that's true & most of the people in community themselves make fun of any Indian Scriptures mentioning those. But, once it's been put under western mark, half of the population falls for it. Insane white supremacy.

Any religious writings of Hinduism where she lifted these ?

Yes, basically such things are found in every Puran & itihas. For eg, Jaisal Dhadvi was made blind for robbing a merchant, Bhishma died on bed of arrows for once killing an insect, and many more.

The most basic referances to ailments & what diseases arise due to sin are present in Garud Purana.

Chapter 4

60-62. Having eaten there their undecaying fruits they are born again. By order of Yama they return to the earth and become unmoving and other creatures:
Trees, bushes, plants, creepers, rocks and grasses, these are spoken of as unmoving; enveloped in great delusion, Insects, birds, animals and fish;--it is said that there are eighty-four hundred thousands of fates of birth-fates.
63. All these evolve thence into the human condition; having come back from hell they are born in the human kingdom amongst low outcastes, and even there, by the stains of sin, become very miserable.
64. Thus they become men and women oozing with leprosy, born blind, infested with grievous maladies, and bearing the marks of sin.

CHAPTER V An Account of the Signs of Sins.

  1. Garuḍa said: Tell me, O Keśava, by what sins particular signs are produced, and to what sorts of birth such sins lead?
  2. The Blessed Lord said: The sins on account of which the sinful returning from hell come to particular births, and the signs produced by particular sins,--these hear from me.
  3. The murderer of a Brāhmaṇ becomes consumptive, the killer of a cow becomes hump-backed and imbecile, the murderer of a virgin becomes leprous,--all three born as outcastes.
  4. The slayer of a woman and the destroyer of embryos becomes a savage full of diseases; who commits illicit intercourse, a eunuch; who goes with his teacher's wife, diseased-skinned.
  5. The eater of flesh becomes very red; the drinker of intoxicants, one with discoloured teeth; the Brāhmaṇ who, on account of greed, eats what should not be eaten, becomes big-bellied.
  6. He who eats sweet foods, without giving to others, becomes swollen-necked; who gives impure food at a Śrāddha ceremony is born a spotted leper.
  7. The man who, through pride, insults his teacher, becomes an epileptic; who despises the Vedas and the Śāstras certainly becomes jaundiced.
  8. Who bears false witness becomes dumb; who breaks the meal-row 1 becomes one-eyed; who interferes with marriage becomes lipless; who steals a book-is born blind.
  9. Who strikes a cow or a Brāhmaṇ with his foot is born lame and deformed; who speaks lies becomes a stammerer, and who listens to them becomes deaf.
  10. A poisoner becomes insane; an incendiary becomes bald; who sells flesh becomes unlucky; who eats fled of other beings becomes diseased.
  11. Who steals jewels is born in a low caste; who steals gold gets diseased nails; who steals any metal becomes poverty-stricken.
  12. Who steals food becomes a rat; who steals grain becomes a locust; who steals water becomes a Chātaka-bird 2; and who steals poison, a scorpion.
  13. Who steals vegetables and leaves becomes a peacock; perfumes, a musk-rat; honey, a gad-fly; flesh, a vulture; and salt, an ant.
  14. Who steals betel, fruits and flowers becomes a forest-monkey; who steal shoes, grass and cotton are born from sheeps' wombs.
  15. Who lives by violence, who robs caravans on the road, and who is fond of hunting, certainly becomes a goat in a butcher's house.
  16. Who dies by drinking poison becomes a black serpent on a mountain; whose feature is unrestrained becomes an elephant in a desolate forest.
  17. Those twice-born who do not make offering to the World-deities, and who eat all foods without consideration, become tigers in a desolate forest.
  18. The Brāhmiṇ who does not recite the Gāyatrī 1, who does not meditate at twilight, who is inwardly wicked while outwardly pious, becomes a crane.
  19. The Brāhmiṇ who officiates for one unfit to perform sacrifice becomes a village hog, and by too many sacrifices he becomes an ass; by eating without grace, a crow.
  20. The twice-born who does not impart learning to the deserving becomes a bull; the pupil who does not serve his teacher becomes an animal,--an ass or a cow.
  21. Who threatens and spits at his teacher, or browbeats a Brāhmaṇ, is born as a Brāhmiṇ-fiend in a waterless wilderness.
  22. Who does not give to a twice-born according to his promise becomes a jackal; who is not hospitable to the goody becomes a howling Fire-face.
  23. Who deceives a friend becomes a mountain-vulture; who cheats in selling, an owl; who speaks ill of caste and order is born a pigeon in a wood.
  24. Who destroys hopes and who destroys affection, who through dislike abandons his wife, becomes a ruddy goose for a long time.
  25. Who hates mother, father and teacher, who quarrels with sister and brother, is destroyed when an embryo in the womb, even for a thousand births.
  26. The woman who abuses her mother-in-law and father-in-law, and causes constant quarrels; becomes a leech; and she who scolds her husband becomes a louse.
  27. Who, abandoning her own husband, runs after another man, becomes a flying-fox, a house-lizard, or a kind of female serpent.
  28. He who cuts off his lineage, by embracing a woman of his own family, having become a hyena and a porcupine, is born from the womb of a bear.
  29. The lustful man who goes with a female ascetic becomes a desert fiend; who consorts with an immature girl becomes a huge snake in a wood.
  30. Who covets his teacher's wife, becomes a chameleon; who goes with the king's wife becomes corrupt; and with his friend's wife, a donkey.
  31. Who commits unnatural vice becomes a village pig; who consorts with a Śūdra woman becomes bull; who is passionate becomes a lustful horse. 32-33. Who feeds upon the eleventh-day offerings to the dead is born a dog. The devalaka is born from the womb of a hen.
    The wretch among twice-born who worships the deities for the sake of wealth is called a devalaka and is unfit to offer oblations to ale deities and forefathers.
  32. Those who are very sinful, having passed through dreadful hells produced by their great sins, are born here upon the exhaustion of their karma.
  33. The murderer of a Brāhmaṇ goes into the womb of an ass, a camel and a she-buffalo; a drinker of intoxicants enters the wombs of a wolf, a dog and a jackal.
  34. The stealer of gold attains the condition of a worm, an insect and a bird. Who goes with his teacher's wife, goes to the condition of grass, bushes and plants.
  35. Who steals another's wife, who misappropriates deposits, who robs a Brāhmiṇ, is born as a Brāhmiṇ-fiend.

38-40. The Brāhmiṇ's possessions acquired by deception, enjoyed even in friendship, afflict the family even for seven generations,--and by forcible robbery even as long as the moon and stars exist:
A man may digest even iron filings, powdered stone, and poison; but where is the person in the three worlds who can digest a Brāhmiṇ's wealth! Chariots and troops supported by the wealth of a Brāhmiṇ crumble away in battle like artificial river-banks of sand.

41-43. By appropriating temple property, by taking a Brāhmiṇ's possessions, and by neglecting Brāhmiṇs, families become broken up. He is called a neglector who, instead of making a gift to one who is well-read in the Vedas and Śāstras and has resorted to him, gives it to some other,
But it is no neglect if the Brāhmiṇ is without Veda-knowledge; it would be like offering to ashes instead of to the blazing fire near by.

  1. Having neglected, O Tārkṣya, and having experienced the results in the successive hells, he is born blind and in poverty, becoming not a giver but a beggar.
  2. Who takes away a plot of land, which was given by himself for another, is born for sixty thousand years as a worm in excrement.
  3. The sinner who takes back by force what has been given by himself, goes into hell until the coming of the deluge.
  4. Having given the means of subsistence and a piece of land, he should then protect it firmly. Who does not protect, but robs, is born as a lame dog.
  5. Who gives the means of support to Brāhmiṇs obtains fruit equal to that of a lakh of cows; who robs Brāhmiṇs of their means of sup port becomes an ape, a dog and a monkey.
  6. These and other signs and births, O Lord of Birds, are seen to be the karma of the embodied, made by themselves in this world.
  7. Thus the makers of bad karma, having experienced the tortures mf hell, are born with the residues of their sins, in these stated forms.
  8. Then, obtaining for thousands of lives the bodies of animals, they suffer from carrying burdens and other miseries.
  9. Having experienced as a bird the misery of cold, rain and heat, he afterwards reaches the human state, when the good and evil are balanced.
  10. Man and woman having come together, he becomes an embryo in due course. Having suffered the miseries from conception onwards to death, he again dies.
  11. Birth and death are the lot of all embodied beings; thus turns the wheel in the four kingdoms of beings.
  12. As the wheel of time turns, so mortals revolve by my magic. They revolve at one time of earth, at another in hell, held fast by the noose of karma.
  13. He who does not mike gifts becomes poverty--stricken and through poverty he commits sin; by the force of sin he goes to hell, and is again born in poverty and again becomes sinful.

Thus no doubt the same crude knowledge was extracted and blended by her with just a few affirmations.
(As it says, if one bear false witness will become dumb, those who steal gold will have diseased nails, lier will become staggered & those hearing it will be deaf & so on.)

कालिकार्पणमस्तु ।🌺

  • Thx for such a detailed answer, so helpful :) And I fully agree with what you wrote here. They steal so much and make millions off of Indian/Hinduism yoga and meditation techniques. Makes me wanna hurl.
    – user27626
    Jul 8, 2022 at 2:43

You must log in to answer this question.