My long quest for the Brahma gyan or moksha has led me to a lot of reading, research and meditation and today a question just popped in my mind that seems to be absolutely essential for me to get answered. The question is: a) WHo is feeling the intense desire to have BrahmaGyan or atmGyan - is it my physical mind, my subtle body/ subtle mind or my soul? b) If it is physical or subtle body, then when it dies and the Brahma gyan will be lost? c) If it is my soul seeking the BrahmaGyan then why does it not already have it?

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kshetra is eager to meet Kshtragya; (the incomplete long to meet the rest to get back in state of POORAN).

The Brahm naad and Brahm Prakash when imbibes in our body (after one crosses a THRESHOLD) then one gets a WHOLE-BODY partner called BRAHM SWAROOP or HARI. NOTE; AVATAR is the one who is BORN along with HARI and perform BAL-LILA; HARI RAMA; HARI KRISHNA; HARI SAI RAM; HARI VITTHAL; HAR HAR MAHADEVA; HARI MANDIR SAHIB; The disciple imbibes it later IN LIFE (but before death) GURU HARI

Deeper insight Dharama; the one that takes one into KINGDOM OF BRAHM PRAKASH.


Maa/Ma/मा-म my BRAHM NAAD as well as BRAHM PRAKASH form.

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    – max bench
    Commented Jan 29, 2023 at 11:45

All desires/yearnings, whether they are worldly or spiritual, happen only in the mind of the individual.

In the case of worldly desires, the sense organs first report something of interest and then the mind yearns for it. Lord Krishna explains this in the Gita 2.62

ध्यायतो विषयान्पुंस: सङ्गस्तेषूपजायते ...

The spiritual desire also arises in the mind of the individual. But this desire arises based on experience. The experience that the world and worldly pleasures can never give me everlasting happiness. From Mundaka Upanishad (1.2.12)

परीक्ष्य लोकान्कर्मचितान्ब्राह्मणो निर्वेदमायान्नास्त्यकृतः कृतेन । तद्विज्ञानार्थं स गुरुमेवाभिगच्छेत्समित्पाणिः श्रोत्रियं ब्रह्मनिष्ठम् ॥ १२ ॥

Let a brahmana (an aspirant), after he has examined the worlds gained by Karma, acquire freedom from all desires, reflecting that nothing that is eternal can be gained by Karma. Let him, in order to obtain the knowledge of the eternal, take sacrificial fuel (Samit) in his hands and approach that preceptor alone who is well-versed in the Veda-s and is established in Brahman.

Since mind is part of subtle body, for your question a) you can say the all desires occur in the subtle body or sukshma shareera.

Now for your question b)

The 2 benefits of Brahma jnanam (moksha) are

  1. Jeevan mukti
  2. Videha multi

Due to videha mukti, the individual does not have rebirth, so there is no question of losing Brahma jnanam.

(You say you are already doing a lot of reading, so I am not explaining what those terms are as I assume you are familiar with them. If not, drop a note and I'll share more details)

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