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Was Rama aware that he is an avatar of Vishnu (during his lifetime) and acted as normal or he just tried to be good human being?

  • Namaste Lord Rama is an avatar and does know of his mission and purpose of his avatar life. Being born to set an example for others, he encapsulated himself with yogamaya to make himself suitable to that avatar role. – Annonymous Aug 18 '15 at 1:15
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    The Godly work Ram Bhagwan did throughout his life is the reason why he was considered an avatar. Even if Ram knew he was God, he never took advantage of Godly powers. He lived his life as human. There are various occasions when he could have used Godly powers but he did not. These examples include when Ravan kidnapped Sita and also when he had to kill Ravan. The same reason why Buddha, Krishna, Jesus and Mohammed are considered avatars of God. If humans take birth, they must die at the end of their life and so did Ram. – Anand Aug 18 '15 at 4:46
  • No he didn't know till Sage Agasthya Maharshi said to him who he truly is . This happened after the war and after Siya went to pathal . The Rishi also said he will be united with his wife in vaikunta .Siya is doing tapas to reach vaikunta . – Aditya Yada Sep 13 '16 at 20:00
  • It does depend on what peoples point of view is. I am a bhaktha of lord ram, so i believe that he does know Ram is god. But different stories of Ram makes it a little harder to know the truth. – jai shri ram Dec 26 '17 at 0:46
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Yes, Lord Rama knew that he was an incarnation. There is an incident at the time of Sita Swayamvar where when he accidently broke Lord Shiva's bow. Lord Parshuram, who was also an incarnation of Lord Vishnu, came to know of this and came there started talking angrily about who has broken the bow.When Lord Rama came forward to calm him down, Parshurama asked Lord Rama to show who he actually is. And then Lord Rama showed him his Vishnu form and thus Parshurama calmed down and returned back. This incident is there in Valmiki's Ramayana.

There was also an incident in Uttara kanda of Ramayana described here, where Lord Yamraj came in disguise of a sage to tell Lord Rama that His time is over on earth and if He wants to stay more or end His life as human being. Following is the extract of what Yamaraj said to Lord Rama.

Thou didst use to protect the deities whenever they were assailed by any calamity. O lord of the universe, it is for that reason, on beholding the destruction of creatures thou wert born on earth to slay the Ten-necked demon. And at that time thou didst promise that thou wouldst live in the land of mortals for eleven thousand years. Thereupon thou didst assume a human form to carry out thine desire. Now that period is ripe and this is the proper time to inform thee of it. O great king, do thou wait in this land of mortals if dost thou wish to govern people for some time more. And if dost thou wish to repair to the region of immortals, do thou again lord over the deities in thy Vishnu form and let them be freed from anxiety.

Rama then agreed to depart the earth soon, for the welfare of the gods. So this clearly shows that Lord Rama knows about that He is God. Btw, this story is explained in detail in this answer.

Apart from this, there are certain other instances also which might have let him know that he is not a normal being, eg, He was appointed to free Ahalya from her curse, He was being worshipped (not only being helped) by Lord Hanuman, Vibhishana, etc.

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    Where does Rama show his Vishnu form? Can you cite the exact verse? Also the link in 2nd para is not working for me. – sv. Sep 14 '16 at 3:46
  • @Sv. Rama was aware that He is Narayana. Many incident proofs that like When he did meat Hanumana first time then Hanumana was in form of Brahmin but still Rama recognised him but didn't show. And Rama was also aware that Ravana will come for Sita (read last 2 para of this answer). And lots more incedents that proofs this fact. – Rishabh Jun 29 '17 at 9:47
  • @Rishabh Read this answer. 'Hanuman was in form of Brahmin but still Rama recognized him but didn't show' - that's just your interpretation not proof. OP's question is specifically asking for solid proof not guesswork. – sv. Jun 29 '17 at 16:06
  • @Sv. Rama's took avatar to live a human life. Unlike other avatar he surrendered himself to his own maya like all other humans so that he can also feel human enotions like sadness, anger etc. He also cry, happy like all other humans unlike shree krishna who never cry coz no incident can make him cry. Since he is living like humans (which was the purpose of avatar) so he never admits in front of anyone that He is Narayan himself. Even when Brahma, Hanuman uses his words as he is supreme lord himself even then he never admit. And moreover... [continue]... – Rishabh Jun 30 '17 at 4:26
  • @Sv. When Arya sumant (main minister of Ayodhya) told to Lakshman that Rama is Narayan himself which he came to know by Maharishi Dusvasa when Maharishi Durvasa told this to King Dashrath that time Arya Sumant was also there. After knowing this from Sumant, Lakshman try to conform this thing from Rama also then Rama smartly Proves that he is not Naryana but also Narayana. He can't admit by himself but that doesn't mean that he was not aware of it. It's more based on believe and faith rather than proof. But those incident proofs the fact. I have tons of more examples also. – Rishabh Jun 30 '17 at 4:29
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Yes, Rama knew that he was an avatar of Lord Vishnu during his life time. It is mentioned in detail in the Yuddhakanda of Valmiki Ramayana. He was Lord Vishnu born as a human being. He incarnated to kill Ravana. As Ravana could be slain only by a human or a Vanara, other Gods didn't reveal his divinity even they know about this.

After completion of the war with Ravana and slaying him, Rama ignores Sita and asks her to leave him. Sita gives a taunting reply and decides to enter the fire in order to prove her fidelity.

Hearing the cries of these who were thus wailing, the virtuous minded Rama then became thoughtful for a while, afflicted as he was with melancholy, his eyes filled with tears. [6.117.1]

The bold part shows that even Rama was sad because Sita was entering into the funeral pyre.

Then the gods approach Lanka in their celestial cars to remind Rama his divinity.

Thereupon, Kubera the King of Yakshas, Yama the lord of death together with the deceased ancestors, Indra the lord of celestials Varuna the lord of waters, the illustrious Shiva the great deity who bears the device of a bull as his banner and having three eyes, Brahma the creator of all the worlds and the best among the knowers of sacred knowledge all these together reaching the City of Lanka in aerial cars, shining like the sun approached Rama.[6-117-2,3,4]

Lifting their long arms, their hands decked with ornaments, those excellent gods thereupon, spoke (as follows) to Rama who stood there, making a respectful salutation to them with his folded hands.[6-117-5]

They try to remind him his divinity. But Rama couldn't recollect this and considers himself as a human being. He asks them to remind what he forgot.

अब्रवित्त्रिदशश्रेष्ठान् रामो धर्मभृतां वरः |
आत्मानं मानुषं मन्ये रामं दशरथात्मजम् || 6-117-11
सोऽहं यस्य यतश्चाहं भगवंस्तद्ब्रवीतु मे |

Rama spoke as follows "I think of myself to be a human being, by name Rama, the son of Dasharatha. You, as a gracious Divinity, tell me that which I as such really am like this."

Then the creator of the world Brahma explains Rama about his real nature. He says in a verse:

अब्रवीच्छृणु मे वाक्यं सत्यं सत्यपराक्रम |
भवान्नारायणो देवः श्रीमांश्चक्रायुधः प्रभुः || 6-117-13
एकशृङ्गो वराहस्त्वं भूतभव्यसपत्नजित् |

Brahma said "Listen to my true word, O the truly brave lord! You are the Lord Narayana himself the glorious god, who wields the discus. You are the Divine Boar with a single tusk, the conqueror of your past and future enemies."

After this verse, Lord Brahma explains other avataras of Vishnu too. You can read them in the chapter 117 of Yuddhakanda

So, it is clear that Rama knew about his divinity during his lifetime. He knew it before returning to Ayodhya.

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That's the only difference between him and us We are also a part of him but we don't realise it First chapter of Bhagwadmahapuran says that bhagwan Vishnu divided and started life on earth

In Tulsidas jis Ramcharitmanas Raam ji calls Agni devta and hands over Sita to him And Ravan abducted shadow of Sita

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    You should cite sources in your answer. And moreover, it doesn't answer the question. Question is not about philosophy of Rama being present in us but whether Rama know he was God or not. – The Destroyer Jun 29 '17 at 7:22
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Supreme God Narayana “enacted” as Rama to honour Brahma’s boon to Ravana. When it comes to Rama read VALMIKI Ramayana (and nothing else)before giving your opinions. Lord Brahma prayed to Lord Rama in Yudda Kanda of VALMIKI Ramayana adressing Lord Rama as Lord Narayana

Reference: http://www.valmikiramayan.net/yuddha/sarga117/yuddha_117_frame.htm

bhavaannaaraayaNo devaH shriimaaMshchakraayudhaH prabhuH || 6-117-13 ekashR^iN^go varaahastvaM bhuutabhavyasapatnajit | "You are the Lord Narayana himself the glorious god, who wields the discus. You are the Divine Boar with a single tusk, the conqueror of your past and future enemies."

  • Yes, Lord Rama was Narayana himself but where is it mentioned that he acted all his lifetime? If he lied all along his life, that would be contradictory to his name "Maryada Purushottama." See the earlier verses of "bhavaannaaraayaNo devaH" "AtmAnam mAnuSham manye" This suggests that He considers Himself as human and doesn't know His divinity. – Sarvabhouma Aug 27 '17 at 2:23
  • Sorry I just want to be more clear : It is the Supreme Narayana who "enacted" as Lord Rama so as Narayana he knows but as Rama he wants to consider as son of Dasaratha because Lord Rama is setting a perfect example to all human beings, everyone should be like him: even though we are great we should always behave "down to earth". "Being humble" is one of the qualities of Supreme! Valmiki asks Narada if at that period in the history of mankind there was a man who had all the 16 desirable qualities, and Narada says there is only one he can think of. That is the scion of the Ikshvaku dynasty:Rama – Veda Satyam Sep 2 '17 at 19:30
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THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH

That is NOT TRUE. Raam was unaware that he was an avatar of Vishnu.

VALMIKI RAMAYAN

Let me use The Valmiki Ramayan as my source. Unfortunately I cannot use the Hanumad Ramayan as it was destroyed by Hanuman as soon as he carved it on stone with his nails. Valmiki Ramayan is the earliest untainted source, and Valmiki, like Hanuman, has first-hand knowledge as he himself appears after his version of the Ramayan (Valmiki gave shelter to Mother Sita when she was cast out of the palace by Lord Rama, after the Ramayan).

Just before Mother Sita's Fire Sacrifice at the end of Valmiki Ramayan she says to Lord Rama:

"Aryaputra" and sobbed to him for comfort. Lord Rama's face showed a strange transformation of mind. None of those around him could understand him, not even Lakshmana and Lord Rama said to Mother Sita:

I have slain the enemy, I have recovered you. I have done my duty as a Kshatrya. My vow is now fulfilled... It gives me no joy to get you back for doubtfulness envelopes you like a dark cloud of smoke

Sita's eyes flashed fire and she shot back "Unworthy words have you spoken, my ears have heard them and my heart is broken..."

Mother Sita calls for the fire to be set and leaps into the fire screaming:

Ye Gods, I bow before you. Oh Rishis, I bow to you. Oh Agni, you atleast know my purity and will take me as your own

Agni the God of Fire rose in his own body, lifting Mother Sita in his arms with all her jewels and clothes intact, and presented her Rama.

Lord Rama said:

"Who am I? All that I know and can tell you is that I am Rama, son of Dasaratha. You know who I am and whence I came. It is you who must inform me"

Glory Glory Glory to the Divine Mother in whose form all women are created.

SOURCE: VALMIKI RAMAYANA RETOLD BY C RAJAGOPALACHARI - 1957, BHARATIYA VIDHYA BHAVAN

  • Welcome To Hinduism SE! Nice answer.Although you have mentioned Valmiki Ramayana as source in your answer , it's always better to quote from original scripture.Here is the link of original VR. Incase you are unaware .Pls.try to quote what you have stated from this link- valmikiramayan.net – SwiftPushkar Aug 10 '17 at 19:58
  • @SwiftPushkar Let them cite any source. Let us not force any user to quote the same source all are using. What's the problem if the citation is from Rajagopalachari book? – Sarvabhouma Aug 10 '17 at 20:23
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    @SS - Oh , I was just pointing him to original Scripture , I wasn't forcing. Anyway read my comment again please :) – SwiftPushkar Aug 10 '17 at 20:48

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