Did Ramayana occur 1.6 million years ago? [closed]

Question

Many Western scholars and Indian scholars with Western mindset tried to fix the age of Srimad Ramayana, to approximately the 5th to 4th century BC. And, they succeeded to some extent in making people believe in the above fictitious theory.

If we study Srimad Ramayana in depth, we will get a clue to this riddle.

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After conquering Lankhini, the Godess of Lanka, Sri Hanuma enters Lanka and searches for Seeta. Sage Valmiki describes what Sri Hanuma saw, as follows:

त्रिविष्टप निभम् दिव्यम् दिव्य नाद विनादितम् |
वाजि हेषित सम्घुष्टम् नादितम् भूषणैः तथा ||

रथैः यानैः विमानैः च तथा गज हयैः शुभैः |
वारणैः च चतुः दन्तैः श्वेत अभ्र निचय उपमैः ||

भूषितम् रुचिर द्वारम् मत्तैः च मृग पक्षिभिः |
राक्षस अधिपतेः गुप्तम् आविवेश गृहम् कपिः ||

The great Hanuma entered secretly Ravana's inner city which was equal to paradise, rendered noisy by neighing of horses and tinkling of ornaments, by chariots, vehicles and aerial-cars and decorated by auspicious elephants and horses and great elephants with four tusks and by birds and animals in heat. It had beautiful entrances and was protected by thousands of rakshasas with great strength.

(Sundara Kanda 4th Sarga 26 - 28 Slokas)

उत्तमम् राक्षसावासम् हनुमानवलोकयन् |
आससादाथ लक्ष्मीवान् राक्षसेन्द्रनिवेशनम् ||

चतुर् विषाणैर् द्विरदैः त्रिविषाणैः तथैव च |
परिक्षिप्तम् असम्बाधम् रक्ष्यमाणम् उदायुधैः ||

Thereafter, Hanuma the glorious one neared and observed the best residence of Rakshasas and the house of Ravana, containing elephants with four tusks and also those with three tusks, those with two tusks and still not crowded. It was protected by soldiers bearing raised weapons.

(Sundara Kanda 9th Sarga 4 - 5 Slokas)

Here, Sage Valmiki describes elephants with four tusks and also those with three tusks and those with two tusks.

Modern anthropologists say that elephants with four tusks existed 12-1.6 million years ago.

The Gomphotheriidae were a diverse taxonomic family of extinct elephant-like animals (proboscideans). Referred to as gomphotheres, they were widespread in North America during the Miocene and Pliocene epochs, 12-1.6 million years ago. Some lived in parts of Eurasia, Beringia and, following the Great American Interchange, South America.

Gomphotheres differed from elephants in their tooth structure, particularly the chewing surfaces on the molar teeth. Most had four tusks, and their retracted facial and nasal bones prompt palaeontologists to believe that gomphotheres had elephant-like trunks.

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Hence, can we infer that Srimad Ramayana occurred 16 lakh or 1.6 million years ago and not 5th to 4th century BC, as the scholars made us believe?

Answer 1

Yes Ramayana was written approx 1.6 million years ago.

I have another proof from Ramayana.

Earth is believed to have land as Pangaea (pan-jee-ə), which was a supercontinent that existed during the late Paleozoic and early Mesozoic eras, forming approximately 300 million years ago.

The oldest epic sanskrit poem, Ramayana, composed by sage Valmiki, gives clues about this single large continent that existed approximately 200,100,000 years ago.

The single global ocean which surrounded Pangaea is accordingly named Panthalassa. Pangea must have been drowned into Panthalassa by Hiranyaksha and was later restored by Varaha – third incarnation of Vishnu as a wild boar and that is when present aeon/creation of Sveta Varaha Kalpa started. (according to Vishnu Purana and Bhagavata Purana)

The legend of King Sagara provides many vital clues that signify an intimate knowledge of the ancient world’s geography including Pangea Supercontinet Map.

The episode detailing the story of King Sagara represents a time going back approximately 200,100,000 years ago. As the Ramayana records at that time there was only One Landmass Surrounded by One Ocean.

King Sagara said to his sons :

tat gacchata vicinvadhvam putrakaa bhadram astu

vah samudra maaliniim sarvaam prithiviim anugacchata [Ramayana : 1-39-13]

Oh, sons, you may therefore proceed to search for the horse and its thief on this Entire Earth which is Garlanded by the Ocean. Safety upon you all. [Ramayana : 1-39-13]

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Answer 2

Ramayana was not written 1.6 million years ago because Lord Rama was born in Treta Yuga and Treta Yuga consists of 3600 years.

Manu Samhita clearly describes the length of the yuga but certain scholars have miscalculated the length of the Yugas.

The Yuga length has been clearly described in "The Holy Science" by Sri Yukteswar Giri. According to it, Satya Yuga consists of 4800 years, Treta Yuga consits of 3600 years, Dwapara Yuga consists of 2400 years and Kali Yuga consists of 1200 years. Sri Yukteswar also mentions that we are living in ascending Dwapara Yuga rather than Kali Yuga which most people believe. Ascending Kali Yuga ended in 1699. The next age will be ascending Treta Yuga. Lord Rama was born in descending Treta Yuga.

In Sundara Kandam(Sarga 34), Sita says:

kalyaaNii bata gathaa iyam laukikii pratibhaati me |

ehi jiivantam aanado naram varSha shataat api ||

It means "Joy rushes to surviving man even though (it be) as the end of a hundred years - this popular adage appears true and and auspicious for me."

It is clear that the average life span of a person was 100 years and not in 1000s. Now because it is written that Lord Rama ruled for 10000 years, this figure must be inflated. The wrong calculation was arrived after yuga years have been multiplied by 360. If you multiply 360 with any of the above yuga figure, you will get the inflated figures mentioned in some of the scriptures. The same can be said of Lord Rama years ruled. To get the correct figure, we divide 10000 by 360 and get a figure of 27-28 years which makes sense considering 100 years was the average life span.

So if we calculate from the present time(2015), 5115 years have passed since the end of descending Treta Yuga. Now because Treta Yuga consists of 3600 years so we can add to it the years already passed since Treta Yuga's end i.e 3600 + 5115 = 8715 years. It means descending Treta Yuga started 8715 years ago and ended 5115 years ago. Lord Rama was born in this period and Ramayan was written thereafter.

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Answer 3

Chaturyuga is of 43,20,000 years,

In which krita yuga is of 432000*4=17,28,000 years

Thretha yuga is of 432000*3 = 12,96,000 years. Dwapara yuga is of 432000*2 =8,64,000 years. Kaliyuga is of 432000*1=432000 years. Total 4yugas = 43,20,000 years

Here is the Wikipedia article for duration of Yuga's

Presently we are in Kaliyuga.. and have crossed 5120 years of Kaliyuga.

Rama was from Treta yuga, so it's more than appx. 8,69,000 years ago.

Answer 4

There might be some people who have more scientific approach than mythological/vedic approach for them recently NASA did confirm about the age of Rama Setu and from that we can certainly conclude that Ramayana indeed happened some 1.6 million years ago.

Check it out. There are too many news articles published around last week or so confirming this fact.

Answer 5

A Mahayuga comprises of 4 yugas of varying lengths of which Treta Yuga is the secons. As per Srimad Baghavatam each Kalpa comrises of 14 Manvantaras. Each Manvantara is ruled by a different Manu who rules for 71 and 6.25 Mahayugas. Currently we are in Shwetavaraha Kalpa under Vaivaswata Manu. We are living in the 28th Kali Yuga i.e in the 28th Mahayuga of Vaivaswata Manvantara. Each Mahayuga comprises 43,20,000 years.

Various Upa-Puranas list the war between Sri Rama and Raavana in the 24th Treta Yuga, i.e about 16 to 17 million years ago and not 1.6 million years. Therefore Ramayana is definitely more ancient than either dates given by Western Indologists, more likely 17 million years rather than 1.7 million years as some answers state.

Further, the dating given by Ashok Bhatnagar IRS used a software that could go back about 99,000 years. The cycle of 360 degrees of Astronomical signs is repeated 25000 plus years and so it may be possible that the astronomical details given in Ramayana could be repeated ad infinitum - accepting the geological age of the Earth as four billion years. And hence there is a high possibility that Ramayana occurred 16 / 17 million years ago.

Answer 6

In the Ayodhya Kaanda of Valmiki Ramayana, a Buddhist was compared to a thief and the Tathagatas to atheists (Naastiks). It said:

यथा हि चोर स्स तथा हि बुद्ध- स्तथागतं नास्तिकमत्र विद्धि।

As a thief, so is Buddha. Know that Tathagatas are atheists. [Sarga 109; shloka 34].

Since "Ramayana" mention Gautam Buddha as thief, who was born in 563 BC, how come Ramayana written 1.6 millions years ago??