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Post the Mahabharat war, Gandhari cursed Krishna that he and his kin will be destroyed 36 years from then. What is so specific about that count 36?

  • May be that could be His plan so that the yuga can end and kali yuga can start? – Narayanan Oct 19 '15 at 4:53
  • I know Shri Krishna planned it that's why he accepted the curse. But my question is what's specific about the number 36? – MusicLovingIndianGirl Oct 19 '15 at 4:56
  • I am not sure about this,but that is what I intended to convey. Is it that from the day of this curse in 36 years the yuga will end? – Narayanan Oct 19 '15 at 4:57
  • Maybe, I ll wait for more answers! – MusicLovingIndianGirl Oct 19 '15 at 5:13
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Just being curious, I tried to find out the dates of the happenings. It is very difficult and needs a leap of faith to take all the dates as accurate. With different means to mention the time (A.D, BCE, B.C etc) tying all together was bit difficult. In one view I see these points which just amazes me (not quoting this as an answer, but may be it can be).

Wikipedia says Based on scriptural details and astrological calculations, the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[47] is 18 July 3228 BCE.[48], Krishna's birth year is: 3228 BCE.

Again the same page says According to Puranic sources,[87] Krishna's departure marks the end of Dvapara Yuga and the start of Kali Yuga, which is dated to February 17/18, 3102 BCE.[88] about his departure.

This leaves 126 years as his age (3228-3102).

There are many theories that predict the end of Mahabaratha war. This page of Wikipedia lists them and one that is interesting point is B. N. Achar states a date of 3067 BCE using planetary positions listed in the Mahabharata.

If that is to be taken as basis, then the years left for the yuga end is 3102-3067 which leaves the magic number 35, which is close to the duration that Gandhari said. Also the error of one year could be due to the approximation of the end of the war or that after BCE the AD starts with '0'th year (As only one year elapses between 1 B.C and 1 C.E).

Sounds amazing and convincing to me :)

  • Great :) thanks for your research and answer!! – MusicLovingIndianGirl Oct 19 '15 at 5:36
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    @AishvaryaKarthik, 2 theories of Kaliyuga. Many believe, it started immediately with Krishna's (or Paandava's) death. Others believe it to be after few years when Parikshit allowed the Kaliyuga to enter. Let's assume the former to be true. How that justifies the magic number of 36 in anyway? With due respect to this answer, arriving to above logic is similar of saying: "World War 2 (almost) ended with Hitler's death". As the Hitler was the major factor of WW2, Krishna was major factor of extending Dwapara Yuga till his death. Had Gandhari cursed 50 years, then Kaliyuga wud start accordingly. – iammilind Oct 19 '15 at 6:59
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First the reference from the scripture:

"Gandhari said ... Since deliberately, O slayer of Madhu, thou wert indifferent to this universal carnage, therefore, O mighty-armed one, thou shouldst reap the fruit of this act. By the little merit I have acquired through waiting dutifully on my husband, by that merit so difficult to attain, I shall curse thee, O wielder of the discus and the mace! Since thou wert indifferent to the Kurus and the Pandavas whilst they slew each other, therefore, O Govinda, thou shalt be the slayer of thy own kinsmen! In the thirty-sixth year from this, O slayer of Madhu, thou shalt, after causing the slaughter of thy kinsmen and friends and sons, perish by disgusting means in the wilderness. The ladies of thy race, deprived of sons, kinsmen, and friends, shall weep and cry even as these ladies of the Bharata race!’"

Now to understand the magic number, first we have to rationally understand what is a "curse" (or a "blessing")?

The curse is not something regular "bad-mouthing" or "trash-talking" we see in today's society or media where people give to each other. Those are just their frustration or anger being short sighted people.

A Curse (Shraap) or a Blessing (Aashirwad) in its true sense is a "Definite Prophecy".

The course of events of past, present, future are innumerable interactions of 3 modes of material nature in innumerable forms. Some even say it is pre-decided:
Is our destiny pre determined? If yes, then why do our actions affect our karma?

In any case the to-be events of future are not just random. They can be prophesied. Such "spiritual capability" of issuing genuine curse (or blessing) can come by various means:

  • Having a strong knowledge of subtle activities of Karma through experience or enlightenment
  • Having gone through sever austerities and observing own Dharma, with utmost perfection
  • Being in true feat of rage or happiness, certain doors of mind are opened for a short while which helps predicting future (relevant today)
  • Natural power acquired from the deeds of past births
  • ...

We may count Gandhari in the 2nd league. She had observed her Stree Dharma with utmost perfection throughout her married life and hence she had certain blessings from various elders like Bhisma, Vyasa. Refer this excerpt:

Devoted to her lord, that highly blessed lady had always practised high vows. Undergoing the severest penances, she was always truthful in her speech. In consequence of the gift of the boon by the great rishi Vyasa of sanctified deeds, she became possessed of spiritual knowledge and power.

Gandhari was well aware that Duryodhana was foolish and never obedient to elders. The Paandavas were so much essential to be saved & unharmed. But as an emotional mother of all the slain sons, she also was in feat of rage towards Vaasudev Krishna, who in her opinion could have saved this war.
Due to increasing power, Yaadavas too were on the same path of self-destruction like Kurus and other kings were during Mahabharata war.
With her spiritual power of foreseeing the future along with anger of a mother she predicted something which was supposed to happen in 36 years.

Ofcourse, Krishna too wanted it to happen and he accepted it whole-heartedly. Though Gandhari cursed for Krishna being the reason of killing his kinsmen, Krishna actually was not the direct reason for that. Instead he chosen them to kill each other. Now we can interpret it to be "alteration" or "correction", it's up to us. In nutshell, "36 years" was not a "chosen" figure, rather a "destined" figure.

Hearing these words, the high-souled Vasudeva, addressing the venerable Gandhari, said unto her these words, with a faint smile, ‘There is none in the world, save myself, that is capable of exterminating the Vrishnis. I know this well. I am endeavouring to bring it about. In uttering this curse, O thou of excellent vows, thou hast aided me in the accomplishment of that task. The Vrishnis are incapable of being slain by others, be they human beings or gods or Danavas. The Yadavas, therefore shall fall by one another’s hand.’

Here is the advice of Sage Vyasa which shows his trust in the words or prophecy of Gandhari:

The rishi, addressing his daughter-in-law at the proper moment, said, ‘Do not avail thyself of this opportunity for denouncing a curse. On the other hand, utilize it for showing thy forgiveness. Thou shouldst not be angry with the Pandavas, O Gandhari! Set thy heart on peace. Restrain the words that are about to fall from thy lips. Listen to my advice. Thy son, desirous of victory, had besought thee every day for the eighteen days that battle lasted, saying, "O mother, bless me who am fighting with my foes." Implored every day in these words by thy son desirous of victory, the answer thou always gavest him was, "Thither is victory where righteousness is!" I do not, O Gandhari, remember that any words spoken by thee have become false. Those words, therefore, that thou, implored by Duryodhana, saidst unto him, could not be false.

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One think I would like to add : As per Bori edition it is within 36 years and not Exactly 36 years . In some sanskrit texts it is written as “shati trimshe” (in the 36th year) whereas in BORI edition it is “shati trymshe,” meaning in the part of 36 years. Thus as per Bori curse can happen any time within 36 years. I tell this because as per some analysis the calculations are : Kurukshetra war : 3126 BC Krishnas departure : 3102 BC look here

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