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Does the Aitareya Brahmana ask sudras to serve the other three castes?

I'm sorry, I don't know the exact verse however I'm attaching a verse from (Aitareya Brahmana of the Rigveda, Published 1922, The Panini Office, Allahabad)
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Does Shankaracharya of Puri consider that Varna is based on birth? Is this consistent with teachings of Adi Shankara?

I found this YouTube video (with English subtitles) of Swami Nischalananda Saraswati, the current Shankaracharya of Puri, but don't quite understand what he's trying to convey. Can someone summarize ...
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Do Shudras have samsakaras according to smritis?

Do Shudras have samskaras prescribed for them? If yes, how many samskaras can they undergo according smriti and which are they? Can a shudra go to Gurukula?
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Which scripture mentions the verse “Chandalohpi munisrestha haribhaktiparayanah…”?

Chandalohapi munisrestha haribhaktiparayanah | Haribhaktivihinashcha dviijohapi shvapachadhamah || English Translation: Chandalas with Hari Bhakti are superior to Munis. But if a Dvija is devoid of ...
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Who are saryuparin brahmins?

Some say that saryuparin is a sub-caste of kanyekubja while some say both are very different. Is there any origin story? And how are the saryuparins identified?
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How can Garuda eating Nishadas be justified?

I am currently reading Bibek Debroy's translation of the Mahabharata. In Volume 1, Section 5; Garuda asks his mother what he should eat, and his mother replies, The nishadas have their excellent home ...
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Did Vivekananda consider varṇasaṃkara (intermixture of castes) problematic or instead welcome it?

Arjuna in Bhagavad-gītā thought varṇasaṃkara would wreak havoc on the society: adharmābhibhavāt kṛṣṇa praduṣyanti kulastriyaḥ strīṣu duṣṭāsu vārṣṇeya jāyate varṇasaṃkaraḥ saṃkaro narakāyaiva ...
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Was Vivekananda a proponent of birth-based caste-system or the guṇa-based? [closed]

What type of caste-system did Swami Vivekananda advocate? Birth-based or guṇa-based? And on what basis? If he believed one's varṇa is determined by their guṇa: Did he reject smṛtis such as Manu ...
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Any examples of non-brahmin or non-kshatriya incarnations of gods?

Almost all incarnations from popular stories I know are either Brahmins or Kshatriyas. Are there any documented examples in any of the texts which refer to a non-Brahmin or non-Kshatriyas incarnation ...
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Where do the Gowdas and Shettys belong in the Chaturvarna System?

Gowdas and Shettys are prominent and also dominant communities in the state of Karnataka. Where do these communities belong in the Chaturvarna System?
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Are Varna and Caste same or different?

Varnas are mentioned in Vedas. There are four varnas. On the other hand, there are many castes and sub-castes. Many posts on this forum use varna and caste as interchangeable word. Many resources on ...
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Does scripture explain how the castes became different after birth from Purusha?

The authoritative Rig Veda says in the Purusha Sukta ब्राह्मणो''ऽस्य मुख'मासीत् | बाहू रा'जन्यः' कृतः | ऊरू तद'स्य यद्वैश्यः' | पद्भ्याग्^म् शूद्रो अ'जायतः || The ‘brāhmaṇa’ was his mouth, ...
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Do Srivaishnavites have the equivalent of “ghataka shrutis” to resolve the birth vs guna caste question?

It is claimed by Srivaishnavites that although scripture has statements supporting Nirguna Brahman and also statements supporting Saguna Brahman - Ramanuja allegedly found yet another category of ...
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Do the words of Krishna in the Gita support birth-based caste? [duplicate]

this is not a duplicate of Does the Bhagavad Gita declare that caste is based on birth? in answer to which the words of Arjuna are cited: 1.41 - When unrighteousness prevails, O Krishna the ...
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Where exactly does a person's caste reside?

Which of the following have caste? The physical body including the brain After allowing for environmental factors like discriminaton, do castes have distinguishable bodily characteristics and brain ...
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Was/is there a caste/subcaste designated to actually kill the animal at animal sacrifices?

An example of a specialized occupation in Tamil Nadu is the inherited, highly stigmatized office of funeral drummer and graveyard attendant, called vettiyan (drawn from the Paraiyar subcaste). Is the ...
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Does scripture uniformly agree with this citation from Parashara smriti?

Parashara Smriti 8.25 says: 25. Even a Brahmin of a bad character deserves respect; but not so a Shudra, even though his passions may have been subdued by him. Who would quit a wicked cow, ...
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How to find your varna from your caste?

I have two questions on this: How can one find out his/her varna? For example, my caste is Kasar - what varna do I belong to? Is there actually any strong link between caste and varna at birth i.e. a ...
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Can the lower borns enter varna system?

Ambaṣṭha, Niṣāda, Pārośora, Ugra, Sūta, Māgadha, Vaideha, Āyogava, Kṣattṛ, Caṇḍāla, Āvṛta, Ābhīra, Dhigvaṇa, Pukkasa, Kukkaṭaka, Śvapāka, Veṇa Manusmriti (10.5) onwards gives names of mixed varna ...
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Does the Manusmriti have verses discriminating against Brahmins?

Why does the Manusmriti have verses discriminating against Brahmins? For example: A twice-born person, having, through folly, drunk wine, shall drink wine red-hot; he becomes freed from his ...
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Is this verse really there in the Bhagavat Gita? Please answer with reference

It would be great if someone could post the reference to this verse from the Bhagavat Gita as I couldn't find it when searched on Google. This is how the verse comes: Birth is not the cause, my ...
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Does the Kamma caste existing today fall into Sudra Varna?

There was no strict varna system in South India outside Kerala. They had only three classes namely Brahmin, non-Brahmin and Dalit. So their divisions are different from varna system. Since the Brahmin ...
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Why are there so few countries at present where Hinduism is alive?

If Sri Ram and Dharam Raj Yudhishthir were Chakravarti Samrats and whole world followed Sanatan Dharma, does that mean people all over earth people followed caste system? How come we have Hinduism ...
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Are persons from lower castes allowed inside temples according to agama shastras?

In the pre partitioned era some temples placed ban on lower castes entering temples. Is there any basis for this prohibition in the agama shastras?
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What does the Bhagavad Gita mean when it says caste is based on Gunas? Does it mean trained, external behavior, or genetic predisposition?

What does the Bhagavad Gita mean when it says caste is based on Gunas? Does it mean trained, external behavior, or genetic predisposition? For reference, this verse says, 4.13 - The [social] ...
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Does the Bhagavad Gita declare that caste is based on birth?

Does the Bhagavad Gita declare that caste is based on birth? If so, which verses from the Gita declare that caste is based on birth? What do ancient, Vedantic commentators say?
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Penalty for impersonating a Brahmin [closed]

My family has observed the rules of marriage according to the scriptures. However, in the case of my cousin sister, her husband is a Sudra who impersonated a Brahmin in order to marry her. He is an ...
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Caste system from the perspective of vedic astrology

It can be argued that the caste system is equivalent to Ricardo's theory of comparative advantage (1817), but instead of looking at advantages in supply chain management, technology, logistics, etc., ...
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Why did Ekalavya become Lord Krishna's arch rival? Was he punished because he was a Shudra?

While debating on Quora on how the Bhagavad Gita does not advocate the present day birth-based casteism, a user pointed out that, From Vishnu Parva, Chapter 84, it seems that Krishna with his ...
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Has any ancient or medieval Vedic scholar refuted the guna-based varna theory?

Followers of Vivekananda and reformist Hindus today such as Arya Samaj believe that caste is determined by someone's external behavior. For example, if someone is pious, he should be a Brahmin. Has ...
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What makes a person a Hindu? [duplicate]

In Hinduism we have monotheists as well as polytheists. We do not have same deities and same customs. Does one become Hindu by accepting supremacy of Vedas? We don't have a single book like other ...
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Why are Kshatriyas allowed to eat meat and other castes aren't?

Why are only Kshatriyas allowed to eat meat? Surely the Brahmins should be allowed to eat meat as well because they are at the top of the caste system. Also since Dalits aren't technically in the ...
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Is Thenkalai Iyengar sect really Brahmin?

Is Thenkalai Iyengar sect really Brahmin? Why do they claim as Sri Vaishnava Brahmins?
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Any scripture describes five types of Brahmins?

In Dona Brahmana Sutta, a Buddhist scripture, Buddha reminds a Brahmin named Dona about five types of Brahmins as described by Vedic Seers. The blessed one said, "Dona, those ancient sages the ...
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Is there any writing in the scriptures that tell us how the caste system went from fluid to rigid?

As I had read in books on Indian History (which certainly do not discuss ideas in detail), the caste system as had been originally devised was not rigid; in other words, a person 'born into' a caste ...
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Why was Varna formalised?

My understanding is that caste is not a legitimate Hindu concept and that it is varna instead. From what I’ve read, varna is like the division of labour within society, but my question is, why was ...
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Has any Hindu scholar who upheld birth based Varna system refuted Assalayana Sutta?

In the Assalayana Sutta, it is written that Buddha visited Sàvatthi. There around 500 Brahmins lived in Sàvatthi. As Buddha preached purity of all four Varnas, Brahmins decided to send a boy named ...
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What is the origin of Bhumihars?

Bhumihars are one of the abundant tribes of UP and Bihar. They are referred to as descendants of Lord Parshuram. As Lord Parshuram was a sage how can he have descendants? If he was married who was his ...
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Was there really a caste system in vedic period as it is perceived today by many? [duplicate]

With little to no knowledge of our scriptures now, can a person born in a brahmin family can rightfully be called a brahmin just by the virtue of his birth in that family?
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Is intelligence an innate quality of Brahmanas?

According to Hindu scriptures, different castes were created differently and therefore have different innate qualities. For example, Kshatriyas are strong according to the Taittiriya Samhita: 7.1....
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To which caste do people from the Vishwakarma community belong?

I belong to the Vishwakarma community and am not able to decide on the caste (Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya or Shudra) I belong. As per my knowledge and learning, even the Vedas, Manusmriti and other ...
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Does ISKCON advocate birth-based caste-system or guṇa-based? And on what basis?

What type of caste-system (varṇāśrama) does ISKCON advocate? Birth-based or guṇa-based? And on what basis? If they believe one's varṇa is based on their guṇa: Do they reject smṛtis such as Manu ...
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Can a person of one caste have friends of another caste?

Is this allowed? Do the hindu texts speak anything about this? Can a person of one caste have friends who are of a different caste?
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Which Veda Shaka, Gotra etc, will a person should follow after he was converted into Brahmin, Kshatriya or Vaishya?

All Smritis are clear that Varna is primarily based on birth. A person born as a Brahmin will lose his status if his conduct is not good, but even if a person born as a Shudra has good conduct, he ...
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Does the incident of Shankara meeting a Chandala prove that Shankara never had realization?

According to Advaita Vedanta, things like caste, gotra, etc, will cease to exist after realization. But when Adi Shankara met a Chandala in Varanasi, he asked the Chandala to move away from his path. ...
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How pure were the castes at the time Manu-Smriti was written?

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b012.htm Mahabharata seems to suggest caste-mixing was already happening: "Bhishma said, 'The Brahmana, the Kshatriya, and the Vaisya are regarded as the ...
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Does “untouchability” have any place in Hinduism? [duplicate]

I am an Indian Hindu, I face many situations where there is "Goutra", "Jaati", and many types of class related things are asked. Are the "class-division" and "discrimination" legitimate in Hinduism??...
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Is there an inherent relation between varna and skin color? [duplicate]

Is there an inherent relation between varna (caste) and skin color? By inherent I mean does scripture say that castes were created with a particular skin color? The scriptures say that kshatriyas were ...
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Does this statement about Smartas have scriptural authority?

A book by Agehananda Bharati contains a statement on Smartas: The Smarta-brahmins of the Tamil. Telugu. and Malayalam speaking areas of the Dravidian South of India are no doubt the highest ...
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What texts are non-brahmins allowed to read?

It is said that non-brahmins are not allowed to recite the vedas. However, are they allowed to read any of the spiritual texts or scriptures? What about the upanishads, the puranas, etc.?

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