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Which scripture mentions the verse “Chandalohpi munisrestha haribhaktiparayanah…”?

Chandalohapi munisrestha haribhaktiparayanah | Haribhaktivihinashcha dviijohapi shvapachadhamah || English Translation: Chandalas with Hari Bhakti are superior to Munis. But if a Dvija is devoid of ...
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Punishing a couple to stop intercaste marriage is of which Karma(Good Or Bad)?

Inter-caste marriage is not appreciated by our scriptures and also in practical life and Stopping a inter - caste marriage is dharma and is of good karma. Couples get killed or beated by their ...
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How can Garuda eating Nishadas be justified?

I am currently reading Bibek Debroy's translation of the Mahabharata. In Volume 1, Section 5; Garuda asks his mother what he should eat, and his mother replies, The nishadas have their excellent home ...
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Who are saryuparin brahmins?

Some say that saryuparin is a sub-caste of kanyekubja while some say both are very different. Is there any origin story? And how are the saryuparins identified?
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Where does Periyavachan Pillai discuss Mleccha devotees of Vishnu?

Mlecchas refer to people who are foreign to India and the Vedic tradition, in contrast to Nastikas who are from India but reject the Vedic tradition. In this excerpt from his Rahasyatraya Sara, the ...
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Was Vivekananda a proponent of birth-based caste-system or the guṇa-based? [closed]

What type of caste-system did Swami Vivekananda advocate? Birth-based or guṇa-based? And on what basis? If he believed one's varṇa is determined by their guṇa: Did he reject smṛtis such as Manu ...
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Did Vivekananda consider varṇasaṃkara (intermixture of castes) problematic or instead welcome it?

Arjuna in Bhagavad-gītā thought varṇasaṃkara would wreak havoc on the society: adharmābhibhavāt kṛṣṇa praduṣyanti kulastriyaḥ strīṣu duṣṭāsu vārṣṇeya jāyate varṇasaṃkaraḥ saṃkaro narakāyaiva ...
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Any examples of non-brahmin or non-kshatriya incarnations of gods?

Almost all incarnations from popular stories I know are either Brahmins or Kshatriyas. Are there any documented examples in any of the texts which refer to a non-Brahmin or non-Kshatriyas incarnation ...
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Mentions of intercaste marriage in ManuSmriti or Manu Dharma

Trying to study ManuSmriti. 1) What does Manusmriti say about inter-caste marriages? 2) Are there any punishments given for inter-caste marriages? 3) Are there any mentions of inter-caste marriages ...
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Do any other scriptures mention Brahma Tirtha, bathing where non-Brahmins become Brahmins?

Mahabharat, Vana parva, tirtha-yatra parva https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-mahabharata-third-book/d/doc7362.html. Says: One should next proceed to the excellent tirtha of Brahma. ...
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Does progeny born out of varNa-SaMkara (intermixing of classes) also derive gotra from father?

There was an episode where satyakAma jabala of unknown lineage was accepted as a disciple. Similarly, on the recent there happened another incident where King Prasenadi from the lineage of shAkhya was ...
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What do the Vedas say about caste?

What do the Vedas say about caste? For the purpose of this question you can take a broad approach of the definition of caste. Like if it is called varna in vedas, then I want to know what the vedas ...
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What are the counter-arguments within Hinduism(scriptures) against the Birth based Varna and Caste system?

Even if earlier Varna was not birth based, and later it degenerated into birth base Varna and even later into birth based caste system. But whether there are counter arguments within Hinduism(esp. ...
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Examples of Varna migration in Hindu mythology?

Is migration between Varna really allowed in Hinduism? If yes, please give examples along with reference.
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Can the lower borns enter varna system?

Ambaṣṭha, Niṣāda, Pārośora, Ugra, Sūta, Māgadha, Vaideha, Āyogava, Kṣattṛ, Caṇḍāla, Āvṛta, Ābhīra, Dhigvaṇa, Pukkasa, Kukkaṭaka, Śvapāka, Veṇa Manusmriti (10.5) onwards gives names of mixed varna ...
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Why casteism is based on birth rather than present Gunas & Karmas?

I've seen many Brahmins & Kshatriyas (called) behaving like Shudras (called). Being wallowed in material pleasures,cruelty,ignorance etc. On the other hand we find many Shudras behaving like ...
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Are Varna and Caste same or different?

Varnas are mentioned in Vedas. There are four varnas. On the other hand, there are many castes and sub-castes. Many posts on this forum use varna and caste as interchangeable word. Many resources on ...
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How have traditional Vedic commentators interpreted Shukla Yajurveda 26.2?

Shukla Yajurveda 26.2 states: That I to all the people may address this salutary speech, To priest and nobleman, Sûdra and Arya, to one of our own kin and to the stranger. Dear may I be to ...
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Relevance of “Dhol Ganwar Shudra Pashu Nari, Sakal Taadana Ke Adhikari”

प्रभु भल कीन्ह मोहि सिख दीन्हीं। मरजादा पुनि तुम्हरी कीन्हीं॥ ढोल गवाँर शूद्र पशु नारी। सकल ताड़ना के अधिकारी॥ Drums, the illiterate, lower caste, animals and women deserve a beating to ...
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Does scripture explain how the castes became different after birth from Purusha?

The authoritative Rig Veda says in the Purusha Sukta ब्राह्मणो''ऽस्य मुख'मासीत् | बाहू रा'जन्यः' कृतः | ऊरू तद'स्य यद्वैश्यः' | पद्भ्याग्^म् शूद्रो अ'जायतः || The ‘brāhmaṇa’ was his mouth, ...
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Why Gayatri mantra is widely recited by non-bramhins nowadays which was once the stronghold of only the brahmins?

Is there any reason for release of Gayatri mantra to non brahmins and even to women? I think such practice is irregular. Who is responsible for deviation from very ancient practice and making it ...
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Why did Rāma kill Śambūka? And is Rāma justified in killing him without a second chance?

In Uttara-kāṇḍa of Vālmīki Rāmāyaṇa, we see Vālmīki narrate the story of Śambūka. Questions: Why did Rāma kill Śambūka? Is it because Śambūka was a śūdra or is it because he was doing tapasya for ...
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Does “untouchability” have any place in Hinduism? [duplicate]

I am an Indian Hindu, I face many situations where there is "Goutra", "Jaati", and many types of class related things are asked. Are the "class-division" and "discrimination" legitimate in Hinduism??...
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If a Brahmin doesn't perform duties as per his varna, is he still called as brahmin?

Normal duties of Brahmana varna are waking up early morning, learning and chanting Vedas, etc, But if a Brahmin doesn't perform these duties, is he still respected like other brahmins who perform ...
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Does the Manusmriti have verses discriminating against Brahmins?

Why does the Manusmriti have verses discriminating against Brahmins? For example: A twice-born person, having, through folly, drunk wine, shall drink wine red-hot; he becomes freed from his ...
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Is the Manusmriti written to favor a particular class of the society?

Critics say the Manusmriti is pro-Brahmin, and written by casteist Brahmins by favoring particular section of society and thereby oppressing Shudras, women, and other lower castes. Is this argument ...
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Where do the Gowdas and Shettys belong in the Chaturvarna System?

Gowdas and Shettys are prominent and also dominant communities in the state of Karnataka. Where do these communities belong in the Chaturvarna System?
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How to find your varna from your caste?

I have two questions on this: How can one find out his/her varna? For example, my caste is Kasar - what varna do I belong to? Is there actually any strong link between caste and varna at birth i.e. a ...
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Do Srivaishnavites have the equivalent of “ghataka shrutis” to resolve the birth vs guna caste question?

It is claimed by Srivaishnavites that although scripture has statements supporting Nirguna Brahman and also statements supporting Saguna Brahman - Ramanuja allegedly found yet another category of ...
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Do the words of Krishna in the Gita support birth-based caste? [duplicate]

this is not a duplicate of Does the Bhagavad Gita declare that caste is based on birth? in answer to which the words of Arjuna are cited: 1.41 - When unrighteousness prevails, O Krishna the ...
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Where exactly does a person's caste reside?

Which of the following have caste? The physical body including the brain After allowing for environmental factors like discriminaton, do castes have distinguishable bodily characteristics and brain ...
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What scriptures say that Prana Pratishtha is removed by a Chandala's touch?

As I discuss in this question, by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy is the Vedanta school. But there are five other Astika or orthodox schools of Hindu philosophy: Purva Mimamsa, Samkhya,...
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What is Karna's caste (varna)?

What is Karna's varna (caste)? A Kshatriya by birth, then assumed a different one after being raised by foster parents (belonging to a different varna) and finally reclaimed it? Who all (during the ...
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Was/is there a caste/subcaste designated to actually kill the animal at animal sacrifices?

An example of a specialized occupation in Tamil Nadu is the inherited, highly stigmatized office of funeral drummer and graveyard attendant, called vettiyan (drawn from the Paraiyar subcaste). Is the ...
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Does scripture uniformly agree with this citation from Parashara smriti?

Parashara Smriti 8.25 says: 25. Even a Brahmin of a bad character deserves respect; but not so a Shudra, even though his passions may have been subdued by him. Who would quit a wicked cow, ...
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Why is killing a brahmin considered sin while killing other caste people is not?

This question itself is motivated from this other question: What are different types of sins? Where the accepted answer cites some points from scriptures: Maha-pataka: Killing a Brahman, ...
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Was Chatur-ashram applicable for all the different castes?

Were chaturashram (4 stages of life) applicable for all the 4 castes (Brahmin, Vaishya, Kshatriya, Shudra)? Did lower castes really get the chance to observe bramhacharya, i.e. to be educated?
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Is this verse really there in the Bhagavat Gita? Please answer with reference

It would be great if someone could post the reference to this verse from the Bhagavat Gita as I couldn't find it when searched on Google. This is how the verse comes: Birth is not the cause, my ...
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Why are there so few countries at present where Hinduism is alive?

If Sri Ram and Dharam Raj Yudhishthir were Chakravarti Samrats and whole world followed Sanatan Dharma, does that mean people all over earth people followed caste system? How come we have Hinduism ...
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Were all human avataras of God Kshatriya or Brahmin?

The animal avataras like fish,tortoise wouldn't have caste - but how about the human avataras?
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In which caste was Lord Krishna born into?

What is the caste that Lord Sri Krishna was born into? Was it kshatriya (warrior) or Yadava (shepherd)? People from the yadava community claim that Sri Krishna is a Yadava and was born into their ...
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Does the Kamma caste existing today fall into Sudra Varna?

There was no strict varna system in South India outside Kerala. They had only three classes namely Brahmin, non-Brahmin and Dalit. So their divisions are different from varna system. Since the Brahmin ...
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Are there any explicit statements forbidding a bride to marry a groom of higher caste/kula/varna/jati? [duplicate]

In Bhagwad Gita (4:13) lord Krishna said Four classes have been created by me, based on the division of guna and action The four varnas are Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, Shudras. Based on ...
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Are persons from lower castes allowed inside temples according to agama shastras?

In the pre partitioned era some temples placed ban on lower castes entering temples. Is there any basis for this prohibition in the agama shastras?
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Any references where varna/caste is determined independent of birth/parentage?

Is there any incidence or statement in the scriptures which shows that varna/caste was not deduced from birth/parentage, and was deduced only from "qualities independent of parentage"(without ...
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What does the Bhagavad Gita mean when it says caste is based on Gunas? Does it mean trained, external behavior, or genetic predisposition?

What does the Bhagavad Gita mean when it says caste is based on Gunas? Does it mean trained, external behavior, or genetic predisposition? For reference, this verse says, 4.13 - The [social] ...
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Why Hinduism won't encourage inter-caste marriages?

What could be the religious reasons for avoiding inter-caste marriages? I read in a newspaper that even though the person was handsome, no one came forward to marry him as his parents are from two ...
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Does the Bhagavad Gita declare that caste is based on birth?

Does the Bhagavad Gita declare that caste is based on birth? If so, which verses from the Gita declare that caste is based on birth? What do ancient, Vedantic commentators say?
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Why is intercaste marriage bad? [duplicate]

Why is intercaste marriage bad? Is this just a case of Brahminical oppression to subdue the lower castes, or is there any spiritual, dharmic, or beneficial reason behind this practice? What do the ...
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Which Śruti texts explicitly state that varna is based on birth? [duplicate]

Are there any instances in Śruti scriptures which explicitly support birth-based varna? Edit: I'm not looking for interpretations, please only cite those references which exactly say that Varna is ...

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