Not all lingayats are demanding Lingayatism as separate religion. Only a few lingayat are demanding and that too due to political reasons. Let us analyze their supposed philosophical differences: ----------------------- **1) Those who demand Ligayat as separate religion, they say Lingayats accept Shiva which is formless, which is different from other Hindus.** Answer: As per scripture: Now, shiva is formless, but Shankara is the form which dwells in mount kailasha śivaiko brahmarupatvānniṣkalaḥ parikīrtitaḥ [Shiva Purana - 1.5.10]: - Shiva alone, being Brahman, is known as formless and quality less. In the Gita, Shri Krishna says He is Shankara among all the rudras: rudrāṇāṁ śaṅkaraś cāsmi [BhagvadGita - 10.23] - Of all the Rudras, I am Shankara So it means Shankara is a Rudra. Hence, although Shiva and Shankara both imply the same deity, Shiva means his formless pure bright light form (meditated upon by Yogis) and Shankara means his commonly known Kailasa dwelling ascetic form (worshiped by devotees). Also see: https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/2278/are-lord-shiva-and-lord-shankar-two-different-deities --> *Hence, Lingayat accept Shiva, which is accepted by other sects, but not accept Shankara. So it is not a big difference. Because other sects already accept formless Shiva.* In some sects the formless aspect (Shiva) is called "Param-shiva". *Apart from that, Arya samaj of Hinduism accepts "only" formless Ishwar.* There is so much diversification in Hinduism that sankhya etc do not beleive in any God and they are still considered orthodox Hindu and Sankhya also has been propounded in Gita. ----------------------- **2) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Lingayats do not beleive in Puranas and any mythological stories about Shiva or any other God"** Answer: Arya Samaj also rejects Purana or any other shashtra as non-authoritative. ----------------------- **3) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Lingayats do not beleive in caste"** Answer: Arya samaj, [Varkari][1], [Sri Viashnavism][2], Natha Samparadaya, and innumerable sects of hinduism clearly reject caste system. - [additionally, Varkari The Varkari-tradition is a non-Brahamanical tradition][3] . ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaishnavism#Varkari-tradition_and_Vithoba-worship ----------------------- **4) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Lingayat only worship Isht Linga"** Answer: Veerashaiva also worship Isht Linga http://www.shivayoga.net/ishta-linga-2/what-is-ishta-linga/ http://www.shivayoga.net/veerashaivism/ Arya samaj(part of Hinduism) do not even beleive in Linga or any other object or idol. ----------------------- **5) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Basavanna rejects Vedas"** Answer: part 5A) Some Lingayats accept the Vedas and the Vedanta school; there's a Lingayat commentary on the Brahma Sutras called the Shrikara Bhashya. ref: https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/19711/can-lingayats-be-considered-as-a-part-of-hinduism#comment56342_19711 part 5B) Now, few Lingayats reject the Vedas, they base their rejection due to "their claims" that Basava rejected Vedas. For validating their claim we will have to go through Basava vachana text itself Hence, please see https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/23124/13287 At one place Basavanna has used vedas as authoritative/proof. Hence it shows Basavanna was using vedas as proof. > Do not say, out of conceit, that the gods number two or three For He > is but one, and to say there are two is a lie The Veda avers: there is > none but Kudalasangamadeva ref: https://books.google.co.in/books/content?id=kITXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA204&img=1&pgis=1&dq=%22Do+not+say,+out+of+conceit,+that+gods+number+two+or+three+For+He+is+but+one,+and+to+say+there+are+two+is+a+lie+The+Veda+avers:+there+is+none%22&sig=ACfU3U1XnsV7IrNw8wIT2Wr-amjiO0CSMw&edge=0 > Shall I say that the Sastra is supreme? It glorifies karma! Shall I > call the Veda great? It talks about animal sacrifice! Shall I call > Smriti great? It is turned towards the future! Since you abide nowhere > there Only in the three modes of services You are present > Kudalasangamadeva. ref: https://books.google.co.in/books/content?id=kITXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA211&img=1&pgis=1&dq=%22Since+you+abide+nowhere+there+Only+in%22&sig=ACfU3U2AXarng8LyOyJbZJ4nIzxZh0ZA-w&edge=0 Hence, in this verse he has criticised animal sacrifice part in vedas Now, here arya samaj also has objected to translations where animal sacrifice have been alleged in vedas. http://www.thearyasamaj.org/articles?=160_Animal_Sacrifice_Before_Deities Arya samaj rejects animal sacrifice interpretation of vedas. Vaishnavas also reject animal sacrifices > I shall sheathe the Vedas, fetter the Sastras, Put Tarka in tongs, > deface the Agamas. Look father, most generous Kudalasangamadeva, I am > a son of Madara Chennayy’s family. ref: http://lingayatreligion.com/Equality_of_Basava.htm Hence, in this verse Basava has just said that put vedas in sheathe. Now, inside other sects in hinduism: - Sant Mat,Kapalika,Sri Vidya have their own scriptures which they value, and they do not hold Vedas as canonical authority. - Mimamsa argued that the Vedas could not have been authored by a deity - Even In Gita, Krishna referred that in certain aspect like Moksha, Vedas don't hold supremacy. e.g. BG 2.45.. refer: https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/22272/do-any-hindu-scriptures-say-that-hinduism-is-not-a-religion-but-simply-a-way-of?rq=1#comment64916_22274 ---------------- **6) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Lingayat are buried, not cremated"** Answer: in Hinduism, dead are mostly cremated, but yogis/renunciates/still-born dead babies/anchorets are buried. Lingayats wear linga and their tradition believed they are all equalivalent to yogis and therefore buried. For even more examples and detail - also see https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/23981/odd-way-of-doing-antim-sanskar/24141#24141 ------------------- **7) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Basava proposed devotional worship and rejected temple worship"** Answer: There are ingayat temples and lingayat community centres. Now in hinduism, the pure vedic view hindus emphasize that temple is not needed as core of the belief, as it is not mentioned in Shruti(Vedas). For example: see: - https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/3686 - https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/3654 - https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/3650/what-do-hindu-scriptures-say-about-hindu-temples?rq=1 - https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/19380/what-is-the-need-of-temple-in-hinduism?noredirect=1&lq=1 - https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/15263/why-is-it-required-to-visit-a-temple?noredirect=1&lq=1 ------------------- **8) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Basava said work is worship"** Answer: The core principle of hinduism is four Purushartha ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puru%E1%B9%A3%C4%81rtha#Discussion ) - ie, four goals of life: Dharma, Artha, Kaam, Moksha Artha – signifies the "means of life", activities and resources that enables one to be in a state one wants to be in. **Artha incorporates wealth, career, activity to make a living, financial security and economic prosperity.** The morally correct and proper pursuit of artha is considered an important aim of human life in Hinduism. And it is said that out of the above four goals - Dharma is most important and then artha is the next important." ( see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puru%E1%B9%A3%C4%81rtha#Relative_importance_between_four_goals_of_life ) Hence Basava message of work is worship, is the same retelling of core foundational priciple of Hinduism itself. ------------------- **9) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Hindus see Shiva as tamsik, whereas Lingayat do not agree to it"** Answer: Its a false argument, because few vaishnavite sects say that shiva is tamsik, but they say it in sense of destruction (tamsik covers many other aspects). Also, Apart from that 'most of the vaishnavites sects, all the shavities and shaktism sects' do not agree to this views of very few. So this is not Lingayat vs Other hindus dichotomy- its few viashnavites vs all others difference. for details please see: https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/7787/do-the-trimurti-brahma-vishnu-shiva-cleanly-map-onto-the-3-gunas-sattva-ra -------------------- **10) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Lingayat are vegetarian"** Answer: Vaishnavites, Aryasamaj etc also are strict vegetarian. ---------------- **11) Supporters of Lingayat as separate religion say that "Lingayat is monotheist, whereas Hindus are polytheist"** Answer: Very few Hindu sects and non-denominational are polytheists, Many of them are Henotheist. *Viashnavaism, Shaivism etc are Monotheist. Arya samaj is even more staunch monotheist* rather at https://books.google.co.in/books/content?id=kITXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA204&img=1&pgis=1&dq=indra+amritavati&sig=ACfU3U1uJPic-9wS0VzUl-c03mKNxjeodw&edge=0 Basava says the following in an attempt to prove that Shiva is supreme: Indra was born to Amritavati and Somasambhu Brahma was born to Satyarishi and Jyesthadevi Visnu born to Vasudeva and Devaki The Enlightened was born to Nabhiraj and Marutadevi All known to the worlds as fashioned out of the womb Has Lord Kudalasangamadeva, who lives outside The cycle of birth and death Any father and mother? That is, here Basava is still accepting Indra, Brahma, Vishnu etc.(also see https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/23187/who-are-the-parents-of-indra-and-brahma-mentioned-by-basava ) and that too as a separate God. (also see https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/26886/which-work-of-basavanna-contains-this-statement ) - but Arya samaj(part of Hinduism) even rejects Indra etc and Trinity(Brahma, Vishnu,Mahesh) they do not even think as some deity, they think it as syllables of Aum, ie A-U-M and think of it also as three gunas only (ref: http://aryasamajhouston.org/resources/articals/veda-sudha/the-meaning-of-om ). - Poorva mimansa does not accept any independent existence of God other than mantra itself --------------- Hence, it proves that all the proposed logic of separate religion are invalid; and it is just a political game being played time to time by a few lingayats without any philosophical or ritual or conceptual basis. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varkari [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Vaishnavism [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaishnavism#cite_note-251