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We don't need to speculate; we can look at the justification Rama himself gave for his actions: (This is all taken from this translation of the Valmiki Ramayana by Desiraju Hanumanta Rao and KMK Murthy.) In response to Vali's claim that Rama has no jurisdiction to enforce laws there, since they're not in Ayodhya, Rama says that the Ikshkvaku dynasty has ...


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As the story is narrated in Ananda ramayana, sara kanda another treatise of Ramayana, tells that Rama not only accords salvation to Vali but accords a boon to become a tribal in Krishna's incarnation, and kill Krishna at the end, as retaliation to the present killing. yadi api tvam duraacaaro nihato asi raNe mayaa | tathaa api bhilla ruupeNa ...


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It seems that boon description there is incorrect. The boon was not limited to one opponent only or to a single man combat. As per the boon given by Brahma to Vali, when confronting an opponent Vali will conquer half of the opponents strength: आहूय वालिनं ब्रह्मा ददौ वरं अनुत्तमम् । प्रतीपवर्तिनोभूयात् अर्ध बलं अरिन्दम ॥ aahuuya vaalinam brahmaa dadau ...


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No, Vali was not stronger than Lord Rama. Same question has been asked by Sugriva in Kishkindha Kanda, Sarga 11. इमे च विपुलास्सालास्सप्त शाखावलम्बिनः। यत्रैकं घटते वाली निष्पत्रयितुमोजसा4.11.67।। 'Look at these seven sturdy Sala trees with branches of one overlapping the other. Vali was able to remove all the leaves of one Sala tree with just ...


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Yes, It is true that those arrows which killed Vali also couldn't do any harm to Kumbhakarna. Here is how Valmiki Ramayana describes Kumbhakarnas Death:: दर्शयेक्ष्वाकुशार्दूल वीर्यम् गात्रेषु मे लघु | ततस्त्वां भक्षयिष्यामि दृष्टपौरुषविक्रमम् || ६-६७-१५२ "O faultless excellent Rama born in Ikshavaku dynasty! Show your prowess on my limbs. After ...


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The father of Vali was Indra. In this chapter of the Bala Kanda of the Ramayana, Brahma tells the gods to have children with Vanaras, so that there will be powerful Vanaras to help Vishnu's incarnation Rama who is about to be born: Let mighty and guise changing helpmates be procreated to that truth abiding and valorous Vishnu who is the well-wisher of all ...


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Actually as per hindusim everything that happens is the will of Lord Vishnu. When Rama killed Valli, he was behind 7 trees, which were considered as 7 saints cursed. So Rama's arrow also freed those saints from curse and also killed Vali. Vali's death was written by Rama's hand and hanuman knew that. Actually Rama sent Hanuman to save Sugriva not to kill ...


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Vali was given enough of chances by Sugriva. Sugriva wanted peace, but Vali denied this. Lord Rama knew this, so there is no point in giving Vali another chance. Further, to follow dharma, Lord Rama also gave Vali a chance to fight with bravery against Lord Rama himself. He had promised Vali that he will be given a chance to avenge his unjust1 murder. See ...


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Actually Lord Rama didn't exactly strike Vali from behind, but from a far distant place. From behind He would not have been able to target Vali's chest. The reason Rama didn't face him and challenge him to combat was because vali had obtained a special boon from Brahma which enabled him to take away half the strength of the opponent he faced: आहूय वालिनं ...


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The story is described in Kishkindha Kanda of the Ramayana. Vali, who was king of the Vanara kingdom of Kishkindha, once went into a cave to fight the demon Mayavi, while his brother Sugriva waited for a year for him to come out of the cave. Finally Sugriva saw blood gushing out of he cave, and thinking it was Vali's, he sealed the cave with a rock to ...


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Be Happy is right in answering this. Shri Hanuman ji was certainly more powerful than Vali as well as Ravana. This fact is supported here, go through 35th and 36th sarga for details in Valmiki Ramayana. The text in image translates as (this is my translation, not the literal one): Shri Rama: Undoubtedly, there was no match of the strength that Vali and ...


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Ravana, having heard of a very powerful vaanar Vali, went to Kiskindha to fight with Vali; but was told by Sugriv and others that Vali had gone for sandhya-vandana at Dakshin-Samudra. Ravana could not wait and went there. He, mischievously from behind, wanted to grab Vali in his arms when Vali was busy doing sandhya-vandana. But Vali noticed him coming from ...


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Ananda Ramayana. This alternate version of Ramayana has many unique legends which are not mentioned anywhere in Puranas like Padma Purana, Skanda and Bhagavata Purana. (I took these names because these puranas have narrations of different versions from Valmiki Ramayana). From Ananda Ramayana Sara Khanda Sarga 8 yadyāpi tvam durācāro nihato asi raṇe mayā ...


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Vali was king of the Vanaras. Moreover, the dispute was only between the two brothers Vali and Sugriva. So it was not right for third person to interfere in their business. But because Rama was a descendant in the Ikshvaku lineage, to whom the whole land, forests, mountains, etc. belonged [VR - 4.18.6], Rama had the right to punish him by law, but not ...


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It was a hostage crisis like Kandahar. अभार्याः सह भार्याः च सन्ति अत्र वन चारिणः | लुब्धेभ्यो विप्रलब्धेयः तेभ्यो नः सुमहद् भयम् || ४-१९-१६ "There are foresters in Kishkindha, some with wives and some without, some hankering after wives, some whom we have victimized, and from them, we have very great danger." So said monkeys to Tara. [4-19-...


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Rama asks the same question to sages in Chapter 79 Hanumatkeswara Section 2 Book V of Skanda Purana (Pg No- 293). Sages say that Hanuman was not aware of his strength when Vali was torturing Sugriva. But due to various boons he acquired, Hanuman didn't forget His strengths but He didn't remember his strength for some days. Hanuman didn't remember his ...


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Rāma is referring to these two verses from the Manu-smṛti: राजभिः कृतदण्डास् तु कृत्वा पापानि मानवाः । नि-र्मलाः स्वर्गम् आयान्ति सन्तः सुकृतिनो यथा ॥ ८-३१८ 8.318. But men who have committed crimes and have been punished by the king, go to heaven, being pure like those who performed meritorious deeds.   शासनाद् वा विमोक्षाद् वा स्तेनः ...


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In addition to Uttara Kānda of Rāmāyaṇa, the story of Vāli defeating Rāvaṇa is also mentioned in Chapter 7 of Upodghāta pāda Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa Upodghāta pāda. It is mentioned how Vāli defeated Rāvaṇa effortlessly. raṇe nigūṅya vāmena bhujena sa mahābalaḥ || BndP_2,7.247 || viṣṭabhya pārśvesaṃsthāpya rāvaṇandhyānamasthitaḥ || The Vānara king Vāli ...


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There are a lot of differences in both the cases But in the end Dharma is the seed for any/all of Rama's decisions. Please think along the following lines: Case 1: Vali and Sugreeva - Vali and Sugreeva are own brothers. Vali did ill things to Sugreeva in an unprovoked manner. Vali was not any stranger to Sugreeva (which is the case with Ravana and Rama). ...


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The standard version that you hear about Vali defeating Ravana can be found here and here in Uttara Kanda of Valmiki Ramayana, but according to Motilal Banarsidass Publishers' Puranic Encyclopedia by Vettam Mani, there's a more interesting story that's also from the Uttara Kanda: 6) Defeating Rāvana. Bāli had got a boon from the Gods that he would ...


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Vaali calls Hanuman by the name Markata because in Sanskrit मर्कट​(Markata) denotes a Monkey/Ape which is similar to the appearance of Vanara. Source


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Yes, it is true that Vali himself ordered Sugriva to stay vigilant at the entrance of the hole, through which Maayaavi entered. इह तिष्ठ अद्य सुग्रीव बिल द्वारि समाहितः | यावत् अत्र प्रविश्य अहम् निहन्मि समरे रिपुम् || ४-९-१३ Then Vali said to me, "Now you stay here on the alert, Sugreeva, at the entrance of this hole till I return on destroying ...


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In the Ramayana, two monkey brothers are mentioned with importance. In fact, a complete chapter is devoted with the name of Kishkindha kand on them. The interesting story of these two brothers is as following. Here is Sugreeva gives a report to Rama about his plight for fear of Vali, who made his own brother an enemy and abducted Sugreeva's wife. Rama asks ...


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Is it true that Sugrīva's elder brother Vāli was stronger than Lord Rāma himself? Possibly true. No one can give a definite answer to this question because Rāma never engaged himself in a one-on-one fight with Vāli to solve this mystery once and for all. There's an interesting verse, however, from Vālmīki Rāmāyaṇa when Sugrīva is narrating the Dundubhi-...


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One more theory is that Baali have power that anyones who came to fight with him lost his half power to Baali itself which makes him much more powerful than he was. here in wikipedia the same thing is mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vali_(Ramayana) ,Vali was famous for the boon that he had received, according to which anyone who fought him in single-...


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"Do any scriptures say that the hunter Jara was a rebirth of Vali? Are there any scriptures that describe the previous birth of Jara?" The simple answer is, NO. [As per this meta post]. No authentic scripture discuss the previous birth[s] of Jara. There are only folklores around VAli & Jara. Some even believe VAli got rebirth as Arjuna, by retaining the ...


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People, this is not even a debate. Are we really discussing whether a child, who mistook the Sun as a fruit and went on grab and eat it, is all powerful or not? Vali, Ravan or anyone except the almighty himself are no match for him. It is theoretically impossible to defeat Hanuman. He is one of five immortals, so simply no one can kill him. He has a boon ...


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In Kamba Ramayana, it is Lakshman who answers this question. Actually this question was posed by Vaali as he was lying on the ground after he was felled by Raamas arrow. Raama does not answer Vaali. Instead Lakshman answers. As per Lakshman, Raama had agreed to protect and support Sugrivan. If Raama had come face to face with Vaali, then Vaali would have ...


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