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Scholarly opinion is as follows:

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Mudgala_Upanishad.html

The author or composition date of Mudgala Upanishad is unknown. Jan Gonda – a professor of Sanskrit and Dutch Indologist, states it is a late Upanishad.[4] The style and structure of Sanskrit words used by the text suggest it to be a medieval text.[7][8] The text, states Klaus Witz, is a post-Vedic but early Vaishnava Upanishad.[9] The Upanishad reflects an integration and a harmony of Vedic doctrines with those of Vaishnava doctrines.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subala_Upanishad

The Subala Upanishad, together with the relatively older Mudgala Upanishad, are two Upanishads that discuss the Purusha Sukta of Rigveda,[5] both notable for asserting that Narayana (Vishnu) is the Brahman (Highest Reality, Supreme Being).[5][6][7] The Subala Upanishad text differs from Mudgala Upanishad in presenting more verses of the Purusha Sukta,[5][8] being longer, and for declaring Narayana to be the father, the mother, the refuge, the friend and the goal of every living being.[4][6]


The author or composition date of Subala Upanishad is unknown. Hans Hock states that it is a late Upanishadic text.[12]

Is this the consensus as to the dates of these texts?

  • I dont remember Sri Shankara quoting either of these two upanishads. – Lazy Lubber Feb 11 at 7:04
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What are the dates of Subala and Mudgala Upanishads?

Eternal.

The Vedas are eternal.

Manu 1.23 - From out of (the three deities) Agni, Vāyu and Ravi, he extracted, for the due fulfilment of sacrifices, the eternal Brahman, threefold, in the forms of ‘Ṛk,’ ‘Yajuṣ’ and ‘Sāman.’

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    So every such Upanishads are Vedas? – Rickross Feb 11 at 5:19
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    @Rickross All the authentic Upanishads are Vedas. The Upanishads are at the end of the Brahmanas of the Vedas. – Ikshvaku Feb 11 at 15:50
  • Oh I see . Brahmans are of course much later day texts .. Veda means only the Samhitas .. Don't u know that Veda Vyasa divided the Samhitas of Vedas and got his name? Did he divide the Upanishads or anything else? – Rickross Feb 11 at 16:09
  • @Rickross That's a good question and I posted that exact question on this site. Bhagavata Purana says he divided the Samhitas. I'm not sure how the Brahmanas, Aranyakas, and Upanishads originated, but Shankara, Ramanuja, etc. all say that whole Veda is eternal. – Ikshvaku Feb 11 at 16:10
  • That's actually an answer not a Q .. Shankara or any other person saying something is NO proof for me – Rickross Feb 11 at 16:12

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