Yudhisthira was known for his dharma but he seemed to have had addiction to dice game and his wife Draupadi was also staked for it. And none of Pandavas opposed it! Did Shri Krishna ever pointed out this wrong doing of Yudhisthira to Pandavas and said they should have opposed Yudhisthira? Do we have reference for it in Mahabharata?
Did Shri Krishna point out wrong actions of Yudhisthira to Pandavas at any point of time in Mahabharata?
Krishna asked Arjuna to point out them so that he can symbolically kill Yudhisthira... hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/29324/12304– YDSJul 23, 2019 at 2:37
Arjuna: "...since thou art addicted to the evil practice of gambling..." sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08070.htm Are you looking for such references or reference where Krishna says such things...– YDSJul 23, 2019 at 2:42
@YDS Am looking for is there any verse Krishna says such things!– Agamas TantrasJul 23, 2019 at 3:05
Kṛṣṇa doesn't hold the Pāṇḍavas directly responsible for some of their actions like agreeing to the gambling match in the first place, betting their wife, etc. Instead he blames it all on the ill-effects of gambling and the Pāṇḍavas' misfortune.
Āraṇyaka Parva / Kairāta Parva
311 (Chapter 14)
Vasudeva said, "O lord of the earth! O king! Had I been present in Dvaraka earlier, this misfortune would not have befallen you. O invincible one! Even if I had not been invited to the gambling match by the Kouravas, by Ambika's son and by King Duryodhana, I would have gone and prevented the gambling by pointing out the many evils that result. I would have brought in Bhishma, Drona, Kripa and Bahlika.
For your sake, I would have told the king who is Vichitravirya's son, 'O Kourava! O Indra among kings! O lord! Make your sons desist from this gambling.' I would have pointed out the evils through which you have been removed from your seat and through which, in earlier times, Virasena's son was deprived of his kingdom. O lord of the earth! Whatever has not been eaten up is destroyed through gambling. I would have described how the addiction to gambling lasts continuously. Women, gambling, hunting and drinking are four things that arise out of desire. O king! It has been said that these lead to loss of prosperity. Those who are learned in the sacred texts hold that while this is true of all of them, it can be especially seen in the case of gambling. On a single day, one may lose all one's property. Misery is certain. Wealth that has not been enjoyed is lost. Only harsh words are left.
O Kouravya! I would have recounted these and other bitter topics. O mighty-armed one! I would have spoken to Ambika's son about these effects of gambling. O descendant of the Kuru lineage! If my words had been accepted by him, the dharma of the Kurus would have remained undisturbed. O Indra among kings! O best of the Bharata lineage! If he had not accepted my soft words, which are like medicine, I would have restrained him through force. In similar fashion, I would have destroyed all the courtiers and gamblers, ill-wishers masquerading as well-wishers. O Kouravya! It was my absence from Anarta that led to all your misfortunes from gambling. O Pandu's son! O best of the Kurus! When I reached Dvaraka, I learnt everything about your misfortunes from Yuyudhana. O Indra among kings! As soon as I heard this, my mind was filled with great anxiety. O lord of the earth! I have swiftly come here, in a desire to see you. O bull among the Bharata lineage! All of us are beset with great difficulties, since we find you and your brothers immersed in this misfortune."
(In K M Ganguli's translation this is Ch. 13 of the Vana Parva)
So there no instances in Mahabharata where Shri Krishna points out those wrong actions of Yudhishitra? Jul 24, 2019 at 3:12
Not AFAIK. If he wanted to point their mistakes, this is the place to do it. @AkshayS Jul 24, 2019 at 3:18
what is AFAIK?? Jul 24, 2019 at 3:20
1As Far As I Know !! Jul 24, 2019 at 3:21
Yes krishna on one instance had asked yudishtra why he was not called for the game of dice because on the kaurava side shakuni was playing. as counter part he should have been called.. But all this question is unnecessary because pandvas did as per Lord krishna, they know that also. just for world sake Krishna asks. Jul 26, 2019 at 4:10
Krishna does not directly point out Yudhishthira's faults, being junior to him like the other Pandavas. But I think he sarcastically mentions it when he pays second visit to the Pandavas with his wife Satyabhama during their exile.
"..... it is for this, you have been named the Virtuous King, O son of Pritha! Having won kingdoms and riches and means of enjoyment, your best delight has been charity and truth and practice of austerities, O King, and faith and meditation and forbearance and patience! When the population of Kuru-jangala beheld Krishna outraged in the assembly hall, who but yourself could brook that conduct, O Pandu's son, which was so repugnant both to virtue and usage?..."
Reference - https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03182.htm
I do remember one instance when Yudhisthira received a good scolding from Krishna.
It is the time when Pandavs were trying to have peace talks before the Mahabharata war and Yudhisthira asked for only 5 villages.
This angered Krishna and he scolded Yudhisthira (not in front of Kaurav's emissary), that being a Kshatriya, begging for land is not dharma.
It was during the "Bhagwat Yana Parva", find reference here.
A long-life Brahmacharya is not, O lord of earth, the duty of a Kshatriya. Indeed, men of all the four orders have said that a Kshatriya should never subsist on alms; victory or death in battle, hath been eternally ordained by the Creator; even that is the duty of a Kshatriya. Cowardice is not applauded (in a Kshatriya). Subsistence, O Yudhishthira, is not possible by Cowardice, O thou of mighty arms. Display thy prowess, and vanquish, O chastiser of foes, thy enemies.
1I am not asking instance where Krishna scolds Yudhistra. I am asking did Krishna pointed out wrong doings of Yudhistra in dice game! Jul 24, 2019 at 12:43
@AkshayS the Title of this question threw me off, It says "at any point of time in Mahabharata", so I thought any point will do !! Jul 25, 2019 at 4:26
1I used the word wrong actions of Yudhistra and in content I specified what are wrong actions he did! Clearly content is mentioned! At any point did shri krishna pointed out this wrong doings in dice game of Yudhistra. Jul 25, 2019 at 4:36